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NotAProghead 
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 Topic: Bootleg alertPosted: March 07 2017 at 07:20 |
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^ Wrong thread, this one is for reporting bootlegs in PA database.
Anyway to your question - it's necessary to check each particular case. Some are burned from official releases, some have simpler artwork, some were released as bootlegs first and then officially.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: March 07 2017 at 06:27 |
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There are many officially released CD's recordings on Discogs listed as unofficial. These unofficial CD's usually cost less then the official releases. Are these Discogs unofficial releases ripped and burned from official releases? Are there other explanations? I ask because I'm tempted to purchase an official unofficial RPI release. Edited by omphaloskepsis - March 07 2017 at 06:33 |
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Logan
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Posted: January 13 2017 at 16:56 |
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^^ It has been claimed before that the Mellow Records bandcamp account has had bootlegs available for purchase (legal disclaimer: don't sue the messenger). I'm removing it as I have not found it listed on the Agents of Mercy site and because of what was written by Infandous. Thanks for alerting me, Eugene.
In case it is ever claimed as an official release, here is the info from the album page: Live, released in 2009 Songs / Tracks Listing 1. The Fading Ghosts of Twilight (8:54) 2. The Unwanted Brother (9:45) 3. Heroes & Beacons (9:20) 4. Jesus on the Barricades (5:21) 5. A Different Sun (13:04) Total Time 46:24 Line-up / Musicians - Nad Sylvan / vocals - Roine Stolt / guitars, bass, vocals - Biggo Zelfries / piano, organ, mellotron, minimoog, violin - Pat Mastelotto / drums, percussion - Zoltan Csörsz / drums - Jimmy Keegan / drums - Jonas Reingold / bass Releases information October 17, 2009 Recorded live in Brighton, England 2009 |
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Finnforest
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Posted: January 13 2017 at 08:20 |
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Well, Mellow's Bandcamp had its own version of Kate Bush's new Live album up on that page before the real thing was released. I got to hear it for about a day before it mysteriously vanished.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 13 2017 at 07:31 |
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^ But it's also on Mellow Records (not a pirate label, as far as I can tell) bandcamp page: http://https://mellowrecords.bandcamp.com/album/agents-of-mercy-magic-kingdom
Thanks, I'll send PM to admins, decision is up to them.
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infandous
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Posted: January 13 2017 at 06:37 |
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Roine Stolt has confirmed on the FK Yahoo group that the Agents of Mercy live album listed on progarchives, "Magic Kingdom", is in fact a bootleg and should be removed. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=49220
Also, the person who made the recording has a free version on archive.org, with Roine's permission and he also verified that the recording was his and that it is not an official recording and should not be for sale. 1c. Re: Agents of Mercy - Magic Kingdom Posted by: "Roine Stolt" [email protected] roine.stolt Date: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:19 pm ((PST)) not legit - there is only ONE legit live recording from Agents of Mercy - and that’s the Power of Two CD. if it says “Magic Kingdom ……..” it is most likely from "Magic Room" in Boston, and with Nick DV on drums. Roine. |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: December 20 2016 at 13:36 |
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^^ Thanks. No bootleg - no problem.
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Pekka
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Posted: December 17 2016 at 08:00 |
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http://www.camelproductions-store.com/available-soon-for-pre-order--ichigo-ichie-camel-live-in-japan-218-p.asp
False alarm! They've added it to their official shop since morning.
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Pekka
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Posted: December 17 2016 at 06:59 |
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There's this new Camel DVD: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53501
http://Camelproductions.com says nothing about it. Only real info I found with a very fast check was this: http://www.cd-services.com/product_info.aspx?id=14582 No info about any label. Smells funny to me, this one.
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: August 22 2016 at 08:21 |
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Sure, will check. Thanks!
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NotAProghead
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Posted: August 22 2016 at 07:58 |
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Keishiro, please look at these 2 albums reported on this page and decide let them live or die:
1. Ash Ra Tempel "Paris Downers" http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38688 It doesn't appear in the official discography: http://www.ashra.com/disco/welcome.htm. Discogs and RYM call it unofficial and unauthorized: This recource http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/ash-ra-temple-recorded-live-at-salle-wagrem-paris-december-6-1974-a-78807.html also says it's a bootleg. There are 2 editions, from 2013 https://www.discogs.com/Focus-In-Concert-1973/release/4989274 and 2016 https://www.discogs.com/Focus-In-Concert-1973-/release/8409742. Both unofficial. |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: August 22 2016 at 07:43 |
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^ Noted.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: August 22 2016 at 07:31 |
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^ Thanks, looks a boot. Will report it (and other albums mentioned in this thread) to admins.
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npjnpj
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Posted: August 21 2016 at 02:35 |
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I'm pretty sure this Zappa live album is a bootleg:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51008 It's widely available, but it isn't featured on any of the FZ and FZ Family Trust websites. |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: July 16 2016 at 07:56 |
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Another one to bite the dust: Focus In Concert 1973 (http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=52453)
There are 2 editions, from 2013 https://www.discogs.com/Focus-In-Concert-1973/release/4989274 and 2016 https://www.discogs.com/Focus-In-Concert-1973-/release/8409742. Both unofficial.
Edited by NotAProghead - August 22 2016 at 07:56 |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: June 18 2016 at 14:03 |
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^ Looks like it's so.
Discogs and RYM call it unofficial and unauthorized: This recource http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/ash-ra-temple-recorded-live-at-salle-wagrem-paris-december-6-1974-a-78807.html says it's a bootleg.
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Modrigue
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Posted: June 18 2016 at 12:18 |
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Hello,
I think this one is a bootleg: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=38688 It doesn't appear in the official discography: http://www.ashra.com/disco/welcome.htm |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: June 07 2016 at 18:10 |
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^ Deleted.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: June 07 2016 at 10:47 |
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It seems The Doors "Seattle 1970" http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51476 is a bootleg. Actually it's a bootleg well known by the fans long before 2015 BRR edition.
Normally Bright Midnight label releases the band's archive recordings and they are remastered by Bruce Botnick and announced on the Doors website. Nothing like this in case of Seattle performance. Discogs also says it's unofficial:
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 03 2013 at 16:45 |
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^ Thanks, the only review here confirms this too: "This is actually a bootleg released before seventh records...".
I've sent PM to admin.
Edited by NotAProghead - March 03 2013 at 17:25 |
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