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Vompatti

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Posted: August 31 2016 at 16:57

micky

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Posted: August 31 2016 at 17:30

*spits beer all over monitor AND keyboard*

yeah right... sure it is...

I'd make him an AR offer he can't refuse.

$500 bucks... a case of beer and a phone number for a freaky sex crazed redhead that hopefully hasn't been laid in 10 years LOL

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Vompatti

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Posted: September 01 2016 at 04:33

The best I can do is 35.80€

Rivertree

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Posted: September 01 2016 at 09:55

blocking the ad-block, ahhhh, was waiting for that. Progress Ouch

So many (very) young Thai girls are giving me a smile now ...

CPicard

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Posted: September 02 2016 at 01:58

M@X wrote:

Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

K people, srsly?

PA has some of the least obtrusive ads on the internet. A little 100 by 500 or so banner at the top of some pages that (regardless of whether you click on them or not), will be giving a tiny bit of money to the site owners to help keep it running. Really doesn't seem like that big of a deal just to turn off adblock for this site.

Thank you. We really try to use the least intrusive ads.

The least instrusive ads, maybe.
To get some money to pay the broadband and all that stuff, I can understand it.

Yet, just surfing on the frontpage of the site and being blocked WITHOUT ANY WARNING THE PREVIOUS DAYS that there was a "anti adblock" tool added to the site was rather displeasant. This way of acting is just rude.

I could have accepted to consider to turn off AdBlock if I had a message in my box when connecting to the forum asking to do so. But the way it had been managed just infuriated me: I will NEVER turn AdBlock off from now on, I'm pretty adamant about it.

By the way, while I'm not an expert on the financial gestion of a website, I tend to think the same thing than Micky: an incitation to donations could be a good idea, rather than a brutal blocking of the AdBlock users.

Another way to get some coins (even if I'm not sure it's a good example): I'm on SoundCloud, and this platform offers extra tools for the professional musicians. Couldn't PA launch a special version of the site for the professionals of music?
For example, some people use the forum to promote records, bands, concerts... Etc. When these announcements come from labels, bands managers and other entreprises, couldn't there be a way to have them pay for having some promotional tools on the site and the forum?

micky

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Posted: September 02 2016 at 05:23

that gets into some heavy stuff here man...the financials of the site. A bit of past history and some blood especially with the old collaborators. Much arose out of the pay for play mess that was Torman Maxt. Heart

In which the integrety of the site was compromised for the sake of pay for play.

For that.. there was, likely still is among site oldtimers that this site is a for profit driven endeavor. Rubbed a lot of people the wrong way who volunteered their time to build it. With direct user support.. not blind paypall donations.. would need to come transparancy as to needs. Costs. The owner sure didn't seem to want to accept that as part of us stepping foraward to accept the costs.

that said... I'm sure some click on them. Most don't. If the finanicals are a problem. I might suggest something different than standard obstrusive internet ads selling god knows what kinds of women's fashion (SPANX anyone LOL

) or penis enlargement products to prog fans.

perhaps the site might consider going with something like Outbrain and Taboola.

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Smurph

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Posted: September 02 2016 at 09:37

Oh man. Torman Maxt is pretty bad.

There was a pay to play thing that happened with them? Uhh... hahah

http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/

wtf

Vompatti

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Posted: September 02 2016 at 09:47

From what I heard they paid m@x to ~~delete all the~~ not post any bad reviews k

EDIT: source Beer

Edited by Vompatti - September 02 2016 at 12:11

M@X

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Posted: September 02 2016 at 10:43

Vompatti wrote:

From what I heard they paid m@x to delete all the bad reviews k

Please, don't start "false" rumors. Thank you.

Prog On !

CPicard

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Posted: September 02 2016 at 13:21

Oh, by the way...
[Trigger warning: profanities and satire]
http://www.somethingawful.com/news/adblocker-nag-screens/

Sean Trane View Drop Down

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Posted: September 03 2016 at 02:14

I've used addblock here and elsewhere from my home computer (I can't from work) for over three years, and I've never had a problem so far.

And I missed out the start of this controversy, but now that I'm home, I have no anti-addblock message

M@X wrote:

Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

K people, srsly?

Thank you. We really try to use the least intrusive ads.

I do remember that in the nascent early days of PA that M@X pulled out immediately a very intrusive add upon my request, because it was trying to install crap onto my work computer...

I'bve never had a problem with PA since, despite the fact that when I search some equipement on the web for and from work, and I see adds for that on PA (and other sites I frequent) for that equipment for months on end... But that's nothing to do with PA, IMHO, just normal web indiscretion

=======

I actually fund yearly a couple of prog site (for which I've not invested vast amount of time and work like here for PA) so they can remain add-less.

One has to make a choice >> free usage of a add-riddled site or pay-for-use (though not manadatory, far from it) for an add-less site

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Posted: September 07 2016 at 13:31

Now that I've seen the Ad for the Russian dating site on the front page, I'm inclined to drop opposition to the ads..... Wink

...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"

Vompatti

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Posted: September 07 2016 at 13:44

Why date Russians when there are local sluts near you? Confused

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Posted: September 07 2016 at 13:47

^spy games, of course

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Posted: September 07 2016 at 17:47

Vompatti wrote:

Why date Russians when there are local sluts near you? Confused

You'll have to date a Russian to understand...

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Posted: September 07 2016 at 19:35

Sean Trane wrote:

I've used addblock here and elsewhere from my home computer (I can't from work) for over three years, and I've never had a problem so far.

And I missed out the start of this controversy, but now that I'm home, I have no anti-addblock message

M@X wrote:

Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

K people, srsly?

Thank you. We really try to use the least intrusive ads.

I happily contribute to one of those 'other' prog sites to keep it ad free & personally I am very happy to do so as I like it that way. Having said that I don't find the ad's on PA that bad at all. Though it is slightly annoying that since I was checking the products the company I work for makes I get nothing but ad's for Gillette Razors. I don't need to be told to buy these, I make the bloody things!! Tongue

Ian

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Posted: September 11 2016 at 04:45

So I'm assuming the rest of you on this page are also finding the site somewhat crippled by all these animated ads lately? Pages failing to load and needing to be constantly refreshed (Oh, but don't worry, those ads load perfectly each and every time!

), getting halfway through typing a response and then finding that the ads have done a reload which freezes the page so you have to start over....sh*t, I could go on!

Just unbearable.

micky

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Posted: September 11 2016 at 09:59

I haven't got one of those... and just checked. My ad-blocker is alive and fine and doing well.

I suppose M@X did the right thing and 86'd that clunker of a stupid idea. Unless he is more devious than I give him credit for and he realizes one way to drive troublesome, reactionary elements from the site is to piss them off enough to where they decide to leave. Which they'd likely do. In a battle of principle vs. spamming a beloved forum... principle wins 7 days a week and twice on Sunday . LOL

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Dean

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Posted: September 11 2016 at 12:03

I don't even notice the ads are there, I certainly never read them and don't see the point of adding unnecessary blocking s/ware

What?

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Posted: December 09 2016 at 10:14

A Person wrote:

Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

K people, srsly?

It's a matter of principle. I will turn of adblockers when I choose to, not when a site makes me.

I just has an ad start autoplaying with sound at high volume. The ad continued to reload itself when finished, so that the very loud interruption never ended. It was for Scotch tape.

I was listening to Genesis' Music Box at the time, while reading reviews of that record. It was a horrible interruption.

Thanks to the site managers for all your work, just a little feedback about some of the ads.