Good Books On Krautrock?

^ I hear you, but these days it's pretty much only the small presses that will put a book out even if they'll likely lose money on it. Mainstream publishing got like everything else, all about the dollar / euro. The Dedekind book is published by an imprint of Koch, one of the big European media conglomerates. That means nobody will get to do a foreign edition without fronting them coin. Hard proposition for a niche interest book like this. I wish it was different.

moshkito wrote: WeepingElf wrote: I can recommend two good ones I have read: David Stubbs: Funny Days. Krautrock and the Building of Modern Germany. London: Faber & Faber, 2016. Henning Dedekind: Krautrock. Underground, LSD und Kosmische Kuriere. Höfen: Hannibal, 2008. (In German.) My biggest complaint ... no translation, and that means the writer is not interested in taking this further, and the book by Dedekind fits this mold. It is simply crazy to think that someone would write something and cut down its availability to a minimal number, specially when the stories and the articles referring to many of those bands, suffered horribly from not being available or extended beyond the mother country. This is documented in very tough and harsh detail in the "EUROCK" book and it fits many many many bands in many other countries. It is by far, the worst thing ... but lacking English, these days, pretty much makes one naive and make the work feel like just another college paper for the professor! To me, the soul of the book is already lost as a limb has been cutoff. I would have loved to read this and review it, and there are a couple of other books on the same subject that also limited themselves to nothing! But, maybe, the book is not meant to go beyond the borders of the Bardo, because no one will understand it or get it?

WeepingElf wrote: I can recommend two good ones I have read: David Stubbs: Funny Days. Krautrock and the Building of Modern Germany. London: Faber & Faber, 2016. Henning Dedekind: Krautrock. Underground, LSD und Kosmische Kuriere. Höfen: Hannibal, 2008. (In German.)

Edited by moshkito - July 09 2016 at 19:32

BaldJean wrote: CPicard wrote: BaldJean wrote: CPicard wrote: ^I could always ask to my brother and my sister to translate it for me... If I can find it! I will describe two scenes which made me think "this should be made into a movie". scene 1: Amon Düül 2 played at a festival in Paris. before them Hawkwind had played their gig, and they needed a lot of time to get their gear off the stage, so the audience grew impatient. one spectator broke off the back of a chair and threw it on stage where it hit synth player Kalle Hausmann, a very thin guy, on the shoulder. this made bassist Lothar Meid mad, and he threw it back into the audience where it hit a spectator right in the face. the audience really became angry after that, and to save the situation Meid plugged in his bass and played the Marsellaise. what followed was one of the best Amon Düül 2 gigs ever. scene 2: Amon Düül 2 played a concert in Frankfurt. when they returned to their hotel a buffet for bankers and businessmen took place on the ground floor, and the Düüls in their totally stoned condition decided to crash the party in their hippie clothes, picking up chicken drumsticks and other food stuff with their hashish-stained fingers. a fight broke out. one of the bankers went mad shouting "you just hit my brother who is suffering from a lung complaint". the stoned Düüls decided to take a powder and ran into the streets, but the bankers and businessmen were really angry now, got into their cars and tried to run them over or squeeze them to the walls. hours later Ingeborg Schober and Rüdiger Nüchtern drove all around Frankfurt picking up the frightened Düül members who had hid themselves in the streets. I think you will agree that these episodes would be great scenes for a movie Indeed. That's the kind of anecdotes which make me think that a book about the French band Barricades could be interesting... Now, to make a movie about AD2... I still think it lacks some explosions and superpowers to appeal Hollywood. Wim Wenders could do the Amon Düül 2 movie. he was part of the crew for the "Amon Düül 2 plays Phallus Dei" movie already

Unnamed sources say that Michael Bay is the odds on favourite to direct the big explosive sequel to Amon Düül tentatively being called Amon Düül 2: the Wrath of Amon Düül. I'd personally prefer Wim Wenders, or even Tarantino. There may also be a comedy based on Amon Düül called Düül and Düüler.

WeepingElf wrote: I can recommend two good ones I have read: David Stubbs: Funny Days. Krautrock and the Building of Modern Germany. London: Faber & Faber, 2016. Henning Dedekind: Krautrock. Underground, LSD und Kosmische Kuriere. Höfen: Hannibal, 2008. (In German.)

Those sound interesting.

Edited by Logan - July 05 2016 at 13:47

CPicard wrote: BaldJean wrote: CPicard wrote: ^I could always ask to my brother and my sister to translate it for me... If I can find it! I will describe two scenes which made me think "this should be made into a movie". scene 1: Amon Düül 2 played at a festival in Paris. before them Hawkwind had played their gig, and they needed a lot of time to get their gear off the stage, so the audience grew impatient. one spectator broke off the back of a chair and threw it on stage where it hit synth player Kalle Hausmann, a very thin guy, on the shoulder. this made bassist Lothar Meid mad, and he threw it back into the audience where it hit a spectator right in the face. the audience really became angry after that, and to save the situation Meid plugged in his bass and played the Marsellaise. what followed was one of the best Amon Düül 2 gigs ever. scene 2: Amon Düül 2 played a concert in Frankfurt. when they returned to their hotel a buffet for bankers and businessmen took place on the ground floor, and the Düüls in their totally stoned condition decided to crash the party in their hippie clothes, picking up chicken drumsticks and other food stuff with their hashish-stained fingers. a fight broke out. one of the bankers went mad shouting "you just hit my brother who is suffering from a lung complaint". the stoned Düüls decided to take a powder and ran into the streets, but the bankers and businessmen were really angry now, got into their cars and tried to run them over or squeeze them to the walls. hours later Ingeborg Schober and Rüdiger Nüchtern drove all around Frankfurt picking up the frightened Düül members who had hid themselves in the streets. I think you will agree that these episodes would be great scenes for a movie Indeed. That's the kind of anecdotes which make me think that a book about the French band Barricades could be interesting... Now, to make a movie about AD2... I still think it lacks some explosions and superpowers to appeal Hollywood.

Wim Wenders could do the Amon Düül 2 movie. he was part of the crew for the "Amon Düül 2 plays Phallus Dei" movie already

LearsFool wrote: Anyone looking for synoptic rundowns of the subgenre's bands' careers and works could try David Stubbs's Future Days. Based on interviews of the artists involved, the book describes the background of the movement and covers in detail ADII, Can, Kraftwerk, Faust, Neu, TD/Schulze, Kluster/Cluster, Harmonia, Popol Vuh, and ART, plus has a chapter that squeezes in talk about Xhol Caravan, Limbus, Anima, Floh, Guru Guru, Kraan, Nektar, Embryo, and Gunter Schickert. Also boasting a chapter connecting all this to the later Neue Deutsche Welle and groups like Einsturzende Neubauten, and an early talk with this one fellow who, in discussing the legacy of these bands, uses cultural delineations to hold up the likes of Eloy, Jane, and Grobschnitt instead, it's worth a look.

I had a look at this one in a shop not long ago, but didn't buy as fully half of it was ADII, Can, Kraftwerk, Faust and Neu i.e. the ones that got released in the UK at the time and are well known to UK music writers. I used to have Julian Cope's Krautrocksampler but sold it in the end as I nearly knew it by heart and had bought all the albums on his list. It's a really funny book but totally bigoted in his hatred of heavy rock such as Birth Control and intellectual, carefully composed works like Dark Side of the Moon, Yes or Henry Cow. La Dusseldorf in particular seem to have been included more for their throwaway attitude than musical interest. I found a lot more fantastic music through the CD box sets Krautrock: Music for your Brain .

Saperlipopette! wrote: ALotOfBottle wrote: I think I'll be getting this one. I just fell in love with that "2500 albums" thing. Surely a lot of new stuff to discover! That link is no good. It shuts down the whole internet!

Anyway, it's this:
https://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-price-original-Krautrock-records/dp/3981010922?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

I think I'll be getting this one. I just fell in love with that "2500 albums" thing. Surely a lot of new stuff to discover!


Edited by ALotOfBottle - July 04 2016 at 11:47

CPicard wrote: ^I could always ask to my brother and my sister to translate it for me... If I can find it!

I will describe two scenes which made me think "this should be made into a movie".

scene 1: Amon Düül 2 played at a festival in Paris. before them Hawkwind had played their gig, and they needed a lot of time to get their gear off the stage, so the audience grew impatient. one spectator broke off the back of a chair and threw it on stage where it hit synth player Kalle Hausmann, a very thin guy, on the shoulder. this made bassist Lothar Meid mad, and he threw it back into the audience where it hit a spectator right in the face. the audience really became angry after that, and to save the situation Meid plugged in his bass and played the Marsellaise. what followed was one of the best Amon Düül 2 gigs ever.

scene 2: Amon Düül 2 played a concert in Frankfurt. when they returned to their hotel a buffet for bankers and businessmen took place on the ground floor, and the Düüls in their totally stoned condition decided to crash the party in their hippie clothes, picking up chicken drumsticks and other food stuff with their hashish-stained fingers. a fight broke out. one of the bankers went mad shouting "you just hit my brother who is suffering from a lung complaint". the stoned Düüls decided to take a powder and ran into the streets, but the bankers and businessmen were really angry now, got into their cars and tried to run them over or squeeze them to the walls.

hours later Ingeborg Schober and Rüdiger Nüchtern drove all around Frankfurt picking up the frightened Düül members who had hid themselves in the streets.

I think you will agree that these episodes would be great scenes for a movie


Edited by BaldJean - July 04 2016 at 07:39

^I could always ask to my brother and my sister to translate it for me... If I can find it!