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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 04:39 | |
^ Don't start me - with this recent thread that YOU ARE responsible for ( ) - is way too cool. I wish I had someone here to share the joy of Henry Cow with (preferably of the fairer kind) but I successfully got a chick into VDGG at my work. She was more for Hammill's lyrics than anything, but I've recently mentioned HC, hopefully she seeks out Amygdala, she is curious and 'open', but I doubt I'd win her Heart.........
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 04:31 | |
In fact I'm spinning my LegEnd right now and it sounds great. Tom, my friend, "wish you were here". LegEnd sounds better with every listen!
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 04:29 | |
Mine is very decent. In fact the only thing I could complain about is that bass is incredibly loud in the mix. |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 04:27 | |
I think the 'Red' records lable, I dunno, my In Praise Of.. is on the Red lable, and I think is a frad rougher quality vinyl. Or it's my overactive imagination ..........
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 04:25 | |
^ I have the U.K. press of LegEnd. It's a laminated cover with 'The Henry Cow Legend' on the spine. The lable is the regular black & white 'Virgin' type. This was quite common to come across at that time, along with In Praise..........(the Red Sock). Unrest and Western Culture were virtually unheard of, and the Concerts album, well, I think to have paid 28 Aussie dollars for it around 1997, was a bargain. Immaculate as it is, and still almost........
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 04:23 | |
Which pressing of LegEnd do you own? I have the 1979 American Red Records one and it sounds very good. |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 04:07 | |
I've often thought that Slapp Happy were 'avant' to the regular Pop world.
I've often thought that Henry Cow were 'avant' to the Prog world. Both bands had their direction already mapped out. Both hands had similar ideals of how to, perhaps, bend the rules, within each direction. Hence, a 'meeting of the minds' if you ask me. I love them both - and realistically, don't ask me why...... I knew, through the GEPR, back in early-mid 90's, of these bands. Heck, when I bought Hatfield S/T in 1989, coz of Rich Sinclair, I thought that Henry Cow was some solo 'bloke' who may have been into Canterbury. I was only 17, looking out for something really special within music. I knew what it was I liked, and I was rewarded when I bought LegEnd. Best 15 bucks of my life. |
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Flight123
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Posted: June 03 2016 at 03:33 | |
I would agree but that was the album that got me into Henry Cow! Reviews at the time indicated that the Cow were somewhat different, and for some reason a quote from the press stuck in my mind - 'a cul-de-sac for the pioneering Cow'. It appears that only in recent years has there been a wider appreciation of the Cow. |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 02:59 | |
^ I never thought of the comparison but they're both somewhat very 'English' (perhaps European even).
The back cover suggests 'total disturbance'. My friend 'Bottle' (as opposed to my friend 'the bottle' - which is my downfall, but I digress.......) - for you to be so enamoured by Henry Cow, is soooo impressive. They truly are up there with VDGG, SOFT MACHINE, CRIMSO, GENESIS, MESHUGGAH, CARAVAN, FLOYD, MAGENTA, PENDRAGON, ELEPHANT9 ...........just to name a few of the awesome bands that offer incredibly special composition. |
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 01:32 | |
Thanks for the heads-up, Michael! I think I might go for it.
Yeah, the cover's great! I always thought it shared some similarities with Crimson's Lizard. |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 03 2016 at 00:01 | |
^ There was a Pink version years ago, the copy I own is just black. Great cover-art on that one.
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Michael P. Dawson
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Posted: June 02 2016 at 15:47 | |
There's a new vinyl reissue of Winter Songs out this week, with yellow and black vinyl variations. (I plumped for the yellow, myself.)
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Buy this thing!
https://store.cdbaby.com/Artist/MichaelPDawson |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: June 02 2016 at 15:11 | |
Listened to Desperate Straights again today following a discussion on PE, I enjoy it but can't class it as a Henry Cow album it's too much of a Slapp Happy album.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 02 2016 at 14:32 | |
Thank you very much, Tom. I really appreciate it, I'm extremely flattered. Edited by ALotOfBottle - June 02 2016 at 14:35 |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 02 2016 at 14:26 | |
^ Yep - excellent review. You do your research well
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 02 2016 at 07:56 | |
In fact, I have edited my Concerts review, felt 3 stars was too low and sort of changed my approach to pieces like Oslo. Research as to how music like this should be regarded helped me in understanding what pieces like that are all about. Try to think of it as a thought-provoking provocation. Don't try to find music in it, notice how it is aimed at portraying the subjective meaning of time. John Cage said that if you are bored, you should count to 10, if you are bored again, count to 10 again and so on... Oslo is really not like a meal, say spaghetti, steak, or pizza. I think it is more of an apetizer or just a spice! Those seeking music in it will naturally be disappointed, but I think that is not the point. It's not even supposed to be music. In short, remember: the subjective meaning of time. Also, after countless listens to Kew. Rhone., I've finally got around to writing a review on it. If anybody was interested, here's the link: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=1573737 |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 02 2016 at 02:43 | |
^ Top-tier Progressive band. In every way.
And that sound does sound like a plane 100 % !! I still find that side 3 of Concerts - Oslo, is a tough listen. But that's just them, in full improv flight. They are the Masters. |
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 02 2016 at 02:15 | |
It's dubious that they've manipulated studio equipment to do that. On the Box Set, they manage to achieve a very similar sound in a live scenario. My guess would be bass pedals or lowest notes of Tim's Farfisa.... Or a saxophone with an octave-down (not sure if octavers existed in those days). Nonetheless, it sounds amazing. Like a plane! It sort of reminds me of World War II for some reason. Man, it's one of the most genius songs in the history of progressive rock. But is Henry Cow progressive rock anyway? Some say they are not, I think in terms of creativity they are right up there with the most inventive prog bands, if not much higher. |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: June 02 2016 at 01:57 | |
^ I just went back and listened to that bit - there's no bassoon credited on the album, and buggered if I know what it is - sounds like a synth to be honest. And there's never synth in HC. And this leads to me saying that this bunch made 'conventional' instruments sound very 'unconventional'.
Nirvana For Mice even sports a brief Glissando guitar section, which, naturally, brings the band Gong to mind. Amazing diversity in sound and textures. If you listen real carefully, you can imagine they even shape the air around the room whilst these amazing sonic structures are permeating the ambiance |
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 17 2016 Location: Lublin, Poland Status: Offline Points: 1990 |
Posted: June 02 2016 at 01:44 | |
The best thing about Citizen King is the dark, ominous sound at the end of the piece, which sort of reminds me of a flying plane and war... I'd guess it's a bassoon put through a wah-wah pedal. Especially in conjunction with the lyrics. Edited by ALotOfBottle - June 02 2016 at 01:44 |
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