Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's assesment of Yes

micky wrote: well in all fairness..  ie..  a functioning rational mind. Rap is more akin to rock and roll than prog is. Remember man.. rock and roll is an american art form and whose root is rebellion and anger and getting jiggy with it.  Not a bunch of euros overintellecualizing what is ..has.. and always be something that is based on emotion and reality of everyday life.. not the intellect and hippy drippy philosophizing...

I'm not saying I don't like N.W.A. I think they have good opinions and all. But I just feel like them being inducted right after there big movie makes it seem like the Rock Hall is just trying to get money and attention. Also, I honestly just don't like rap over all. I respect it, but I don't like it

Re: NWA's induction, it looks like the Hall of Fame also includes artists that technically speaking aren't rock music but still are influential enough on the genre to be a part of its history. Sort of like the "Proto-Prog" and "Prog Related" categories on this website.

Sucks cause they were too late for Chris Squire to have the honor. And they STILL won't put Yes in. Yes should be though. They top all the other bands all the way. Wouldn't it be nice if the 2017 indictees were Yes, King Crimson, Kansas, Jethro Tull, and ELP?

N.W.A should NOT have gotten in. They are rap. Not rock. Big difference. They're only getting in cause they had a big movie this year and it would make a lot of people watch. Might as well induct Star Wars while your at it...

Edited by A_Flower - December 17 2015 at 22:54

Speaking of which, Deep Purple is now in, along with Chicago, Cheap Trick, The Steve Miller Band and NWA.

The Dark Elf wrote: It is asinine that the RRHoF hasn't inducted Yes yet. Or Chicago. Or Jethro Tull. Or Deep Purple. Or the Moody Blues. These bands are owed an apology for the electors being tw*ts and nitwits.   The RRHoF can go f*ck themselves. Or itself, as the case may be.

Prog was fashionable for a short time decades ago, and then denigrated by critic's darlings, the punks. So prog became uncool, and no critic can afford to be thought uncool. Yes was later embraced by the mainstream only when they did more pop, just like Genesis, which is why they're remembered beyond our little family here.

The Dark Elf wrote: The contrary and arbitrary nature of the voters of this sham have shown their hypocrisy over and over. What is the election based on, record sales? Influence? Popularity in mainstream? Popularity for a few beatniks in their mother's basement? Or a flawed and biased group of tw*ts who continue to vote in performers who do not exhibit rock tendencies and who were never considered rock performers in the first place (like every rap group considered, for instance).   Explain to me why a rock band that has a song "I'm Just a Singer in a Rock and Roll Band", the Moody Blues, not in the Hall? Was seven platinum albums, several gold albums and many hit singles not good enough for...for what? What is the criteria? Who the f*ck is handling the ballots, this band sold over 70 million albums, by Christ's cullions!   You could say the same for Jethro Tull or Deep Purple: number one albums, platinum albums, multi-million albums sold, arenas and stadiums filled, songs that stand the test of time (and I believe everyone in the rock world knows the songs "Smoke on the Water" and "Aqualung" -- if those aren't rock standards, I don't know what is).

rogerthat wrote: The only two big bands that came out unscathed from the 80s without compromising were KC and VDGG.  It's arguable just how big VDGG were but that also shows the limited commercial appeal of 'pure prog' as of today.   </span>

You've got to be British or European 'cos the notion of VdGG being "big" to anyone living in the States is a non-starter (they are at least known, respected, and play decent-sized auditoriums across the pond even though they've never had anything close to a hit, with a very few exceptions).

I would think Chicago, and the Moodies should be shoe-ins. Yes is a tough one (so much ridicule over the years, based on accusations of boring pomposity originating with Tales and going on from there). Tull's rep has really taken a nose-dive over the years with critics. All these groups have sold in the millions, but being a critic's darling has a lot more to do with it. That's probably a sad state of affairs but it is what it is. I mean, Laura Nyro is in the HOF. I like her a lot but her records didn't sell and most people have no idea who she is.

much ado about nothing.  It's the "rock and roll" hall of fame, not the great rock music hall of fame.