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Catcher10 
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 Posted: March 15 2015 at 18:34 |
Of the past 10yrs, he is pretty close to being a musical genius IMO. From writing music, producing music, engineering/mastering music....There is not much that has been better done as a cohesive effort. Is there good/great music being issued by other bands..certainly!!! But SW is about as consistent as it gets lately. I for one like that he is not recording another Insurgentes or GFD, love those albums and music and not sure anything will dethrone The Raven as his best effort ever. HCE is more accessible, but if you are a person locked into the prog of yore or some prog script then I can see how the album will not resonate with you. I have a hard time even calling this album prog.....but I don't care, it's another great album by Steven Wilson. Can't wait to see him live.
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 00:23 |
 Svetonio wrote:
infocat wrote:
Have not heard it yet.
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Nothing special really. Routine is a great tune, though. And production is great, of course. |
I agree. Routine is pretty much the only reason I kept returning to the album. The female vocals sure add a lot to the song.
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 04:04 |
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I say it's a damn fine album. Certainly nothing new from Wilson, but it's almost like he's come full circle back to Ptree in some ways. It's as slick as everything else he's done, so I can understand that may turn some people off......and it's certainly far from groundbreaking.......but it sounds excellent to me despite all that (or maybe because of it?). This is what I'm hearing anyway.
I've never listened to Wilson do any covers, so I wouldn't have the least bit of interest in him doing Willie Nelson tunes. If he did them WITH Willie, I might check it out just out of sheer morbid curiosity 
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Steve Wilson did do an album of covers, including Abba - you didn't hear yet?! 
Edited by Svetonio - March 16 2015 at 04:04
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Cristi
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 04:51 |
Svetonio wrote:
Steve Wilson did do an album of covers, including Abba - you didn't hear yet?!
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so what if he did a cover of an ABBA song? It's so uncool, not the right thing to do, right? Many other bands did as well. In fact there is a metal tribute to ABBA which to me it's a lot of fun to listen to.
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 05:38 |
Cristi wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Steve Wilson did do an album of covers, including Abba - you didn't hear yet?!
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so what if he did a cover of an ABBA song? It's so uncool, not the right thing to do, right? Many other bands did as well. In fact there is a metal tribute to ABBA which to me it's a lot of fun to listen to.
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Why are you so nervous? Where I wrote that SW was not supposed to make Abba cover?
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Cristi
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 05:47 |
I'm not nervous  Then I must have misread/misunderstood what you said there and your "shocked" emoticon mislead me. I thought you were shocked and disliked the fact Steven did an ABBA cover. Oh well...
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 06:19 |
^ You can't be "misleading" by *shock* emoticon at all, because it's so clearly that I posted that emoticon due to the post where Infandous said that he never heard (listened) any cover made by SW. Anyway. Please read other people's posts more carefully before you started to moan.
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Cristi
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 06:43 |
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^ You can't be "misleading" by *shock* emoticon at all, because it's so clearly that I posted that emoticon due to the post where Infandous said that he never heard (listened) any cover made by SW. Anyway. Please read other people's posts more carefully before you started to moan.
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I've admitted my mistake, you don't have to school me (LOL). I'm not "moaning". I say be careful with your choice of words.
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 07:01 |
Ok. Then my advice to you would be to tell you that you should leave your personal frustrations for some another internet place.
Edited by Svetonio - March 16 2015 at 07:03
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Cristi
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 07:12 |
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Ok. Then my advice to you would be to tell you that you should leave your personal frustrations for some another internet place.
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What are you talking about? What frustrations? Why did you even get all upset because I misunderstood what you said? It happens and I've admitted I was wrong. But i guess it's not enough for you.
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moshkito
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 08:40 |
Hi,
For all intents and purposes, PT is ... Steven Wilson, and he started it by himself.
I'm not even sure that asking for a PT album is a good thing, because if he had any affinity left for the folks that joined him in that band, he would have already done so, instead of another solo album.
I'm kinda thinking that he is done with the Rick Wright type of keyboards that PT has had for so long, and he is making a point of doing it very differently on his solo albums ... and honestly, I think he has closed the book on that band. He's probably thinking he doesn't need that band any more anyway ... which is sad ... because it is a very fine band, and one would only have to know about their show in SF in 1999 to know that most bands would not do as well as they did on a night that the 5th Prophet went awol!
Faith, care and understanding, was still doing it and doing it well, but I am not sure that Steven appreciated it and even commented on Richard's use of old stuff at one point. But to me, Richard merely showed that he cared about the music and the work ... he was phenomenal all night! PT went on to do some nice things for the next many years, but I think that Steven is simply on his walkabout ... and no one will know if he will return or not.
At least we can see that the drummer is just plain out of this world and helping King Crimson sound even better ... but honestly, I miss Richard's keyboards a lot! ut Steven is on his Roger Waters kick ... so that's that!
Edited by moshkito - March 16 2015 at 08:42
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 08:44 |
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 08:57 |
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- One of the most sought after and respected producers in prog circles today..
- Most prolific musician since the last 25 years. A vast discography across his many creative outlets. Never trendsetting, but always very consistently gud.
- His major creative outlet "PT" being the gateway band to prog for thousands of fans across the world.
- A major prog icon.
- Has worked wid a bunch of very talented musicians across prog world...and still doin.
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 09:04 |
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Insurgentes was quite gud and both GFD and TRTRTS were very gud to excellent.
Not that much of a fanboy these days to quickly latch on to Hand.Cannot.Erase. But its coming very soon.
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 09:08 |
Lots of respect for the man...wud b forever indebted to Steven Wilson (thru PTree), Radiohead and Pink Floyd for being my gateway to prog. 
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richardh
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 10:13 |
It's actually better than I expected (for some reason I had low expectations for it). I bought the Blu Ray and then realised quickly I needed the CD version as well as I don't know to get DVD into my cloud player  I guess I am a 'fanboy' although this is entirely for the music. He's not exactly a warm cuddly type in truth but he works hard and he tries not to repeat himself too much. He also respects his fellow musicians. I suspect that PT had run its course. The Incident and FOABP for me were not as good as Deadwing and IA.
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infandous
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 15:17 |
No, I wasn't particularly interested so I never got it. I'm not a fan of everything he does, just PTree and solo. I've heard something from all of his other projects (or mostly all, not sure how many there are exactly) and they didn't interest me much either. I might get around to it sometime, but no matter how good a musician is I just prefer original music over covers any day (though I'm sure Wilson gives them his own special treatment and does just try to copy the original).
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Posted: March 16 2015 at 15:20 |
richardh wrote:
It's actually better than I expected (for some reason I had low expectations for it). I bought the Blu Ray and then realised quickly I needed the CD version as well as I don't know to get DVD into my cloud player I guess I am a 'fanboy' although this is entirely for the music. He's not exactly a warm cuddly type in truth but he works hard and he tries not to repeat himself too much. He also respects his fellow musicians. I suspect that PT had run its course. The Incident and FOABP for me were not as good as Deadwing and IA. |
You know, he's done several interviews, including one very recently, where he has stated that he fully expect PTree to return at some point and do an album. It might be a one off, but he's said this many times now. He didn't want to "break up the band" and prefers to consider it a long hiatus, but seems to think it's inevitable. However, he doesn't want to just crank out a more of the same PTree album and it's likely that if/when it happens, it will be something a bit different than what they had done in the past.
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 02:40 |
infandous wrote:
richardh wrote:
It's actually better than I expected (for some reason I had low expectations for it). I bought the Blu Ray and then realised quickly I needed the CD version as well as I don't know to get DVD into my cloud player I guess I am a 'fanboy' although this is entirely for the music. He's not exactly a warm cuddly type in truth but he works hard and he tries not to repeat himself too much. He also respects his fellow musicians. I suspect that PT had run its course. The Incident and FOABP for me were not as good as Deadwing and IA. |
You know, he's done several interviews, including one very recently, where he has stated that he fully expect PTree to return at some point and do an album. It might be a one off, but he's said this many times now. He didn't want to "break up the band" and prefers to consider it a long hiatus, but seems to think it's inevitable. However, he doesn't want to just crank out a more of the same PTree album and it's likely that if/when it happens, it will be something a bit different than what they had done in the past.
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It does beg the question though , what can he do different? His solo albums are covering an awfull lot of bases and if was to be truly different then the 'retro prog' base is well and truly covered. He has also explored jazz and electronic music quite extensively with a bit of pop thrown in. I suppose it might be an idea to do an out and out metal album but I'm not sure where Richard Barbieri would fit in. Ambient heavy style prog is what PT is about, so how do you break the mould?
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Posted: March 17 2015 at 03:54 |
I think those that pine for a new Porcupine Tree album should be happy with Hand Cannot Erase. I find much more PT in this than any of his other solo albums. Some of the melodies are familiar, I'm sure one (can't think which precisely) is lifted from In Absentia. I must check next time I listen . I think the new one is an excellent album though not as good as The Raven. Routine is a simply stellar piece of music, certainly a top 5 SW song for me. The trio Routine-Home Invasion-Regret#9 lifts the album after a fairly middling start (imho), though A Perfect Life is a beautiful piece. With Katharine Jenkins contributing this could be a hit if pushed in the right way. Speaking of vocals, the new lady Ninet Tayeb is amazing. Her performance on the aforementioned Routine is sublime. A great addition, let's hope she is here to stay.
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