Should PA have a Psych Rock Lounge?

The question is would it draw enough interest and longterm discussion.   There is no doubt the close familial bonds between psych and prog, the two often indistinguishable up until about 1970 or so.   Not sure if that merits a Classic Psychedelia Lounge or not.   I'm not sure, maybe.   It could draw some attention for awhile but I'm guessing for most prog lovers, Psych is a funny and dusty throwback that may've spawned the Prog they love but doesn't drive a lot of discussion in these woods.   Certainly not for those under forty.

As for a Classic Psych subgenre, seems to me standard psych-rock was a form of pop music (Airplane, Cream, Janis, Doors, Hendrix, all big chart-toppers), and as an attitude had leaked into almost everything (Donovan, Beach Boys, etc.), making it a better candidate for a rock 'n roll website than a prog one.




Edited by Atavachron - December 13 2014 at 22:06

No and No. Threads in general music are adequate.

Dean wrote: No and No. Threads in general music are adequate.

Svetonio wrote: PA should have that Psych Rock lounge imo, because prog is a child of that

earlyprog wrote: Svetonio wrote: PA should have that Psych Rock lounge imo, because prog is a child of that  This is often postulated. But it's just that - a postulate. So, 'NO' and 'NO WAY'.

Svetonio wrote: earlyprog wrote: Svetonio wrote: PA should have that Psych Rock lounge imo, because prog is a child of that  This is often postulated. But it's just that - a postulate. So, 'NO' and 'NO WAY'. I respect your opinion, but then the current section should be renamed as "progressive psychedelia / space rock".

Good news, then, is that Silver Apples are under Proto. I would say it would be a bit contentious to promote them to Psych, though, since they are also the first prog electronic group.

SteveG wrote: Very good, Gents. You've all given me the answer I expected (except for Atavachron, Finnforrest and Sventonio) without asking the pertinent question: Why?   PA's Psych/Space rock site excludes key psychedelic groups that range from the 13 Floor Elevators, Country Joe and The Fish, The Red Crayola, Lost And Found, The Golden Dawn, The Bubble Puppy, Silver Apples and about two dozen more nascent and influential psychedelic groups that I could list.   PA's So called 'Pysch/Space' site is for groups that are just that: Floyd, Hawkwind and their clones.   The old rule adage goes "When something isn't broken, don't fix it"   That old adage does not apply to PA's current Psych/Space Rock sub genre. Obvious key Psychedelic Rock groups should have been or need to be included.   If the criteria to admit them is flawed, out dated and just plain silly (which it seems), then fix it  or start a new sub genre.   That would be the point for doing this. It's too bad we could not have a had a back and forth discussion about this, but I'm not surprised by this anymore.

I agree. But if there is not a real chance that the key bands of classic psychedelia to find the place at PA Psych / Space list, then the management should simply add the word *progressive*. Of course, there is a description, but it looks like, for example, if you've opened an Italian restaurant with a menu of variety of dishes as carpaccio, sea food and so on, and then above the entrance to put a banner that says Pizzeria.

Svetonio wrote: SteveG wrote: Very good, Gents. You've all given me the answer I expected (except for Atavachron, Finnforrest and Sventonio) without asking the pertinent question: Why?   PA's Psych/Space rock site excludes key psychedelic groups that range from the 13 Floor Elevators, Country Joe and The Fish, The Red Crayola, Lost And Found, The Golden Dawn, The Bubble Puppy, Silver Apples and about two dozen more nascent and influential psychedelic groups that I could list.   PA's So called 'Pysch/Space' site is for groups that are just that: Floyd, Hawkwind and their clones.   The old rule adage goes "When something isn't broken, don't fix it"   That old adage does not apply to PA's current Psych/Space Rock sub genre. Obvious key Psychedelic Rock groups should have been or need to be included.   If the criteria to admit them is flawed, out dated and just plain silly (which it seems), then fix it  or start a new sub genre.   That would be the point for doing this. It's too bad we could not have a had a back and forth discussion about this, but I'm not surprised by this anymore.     I agree. But if there is not a real chance that the key bands of classic psychedelia to find the place at PA Psych / Space list, then the management should simply add the word *progressive*. Of course, there is a description, but it looks like, for example, if you've opened an Italian restaurant with a menu of variety of dishes as carpaccio, sea food and so on, and then above the entrance to put a banner that says Pizzeria.

 

The problem therein is when do you stop? Wu-Tang Clan were hugely progressive. Just like Sarah Vaughan, Sun Ra, Funkadelic, Bob Dylan, The Stooges, The Fall, NWA, Edith Piaf, Neil Young, The Velvet Underground, Beethoven, Django Reinhardt, Cocteau Twins, RZA/Gravediggaz/Bobby Digital, Stockhausen, Varese, Hallucinogen, Sphongle, Napalm Death, Muddy Waters, etc etc etc. and it never stops. We end up like RYM in the end, because going full 'progressive music archives' also means that we can't pick and chose. It would entail all kinds of styles ranging from RnB to Grindcore to trance to classical. RYM here we come!

Just because a band isn't listed on here though doesn't mean that we can't appreciate it and converse about it's aural bliss. That's what general music discussions are for