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Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

new Italian prog band underway named Episcopio Vistarama
 
Hmm.. not to bad, but falls to much in the "Reasons why you shoudn't sing in English"
category for me.
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2014 at 14:36
^ Sounds good, thanks Uwe! The music is wonderful--I wish they had sung in Italian...

We will try to get the album and evaluate them. Thanks
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Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

new Italian prog band underway named Episcopio Vistarama
 
Hmm.. not to bad, but falls to much in the "Reasons why you shoudn't sing in English"
category for me.
 
 
 



Yep.  Really unfortunate when a good Italian band uses English.  I have to pass on it as a matter of principle, for me as an RPI purist the vox really need to be Italian.  Just my opinion of course. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 09:44
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

new Italian prog band underway named Episcopio Vistarama
 
Hmm.. not to bad, but falls to much in the "Reasons why you shoudn't sing in English"
category for me.
 
 
 



Yep.  Really unfortunate when a good Italian band uses English.  I have to pass on it as a matter of principle, for me as an RPI purist the vox really need to be Italian.  Just my opinion of course. 
 
Why is it important for an RPI band to sing in Italian? Many of the other well liked and highly rated  modern prog bands from other European countries sing in English. Opeth being just one example.


Edited by dr wu23 - December 09 2014 at 09:46
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andrea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 11:26
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

new Italian prog band underway named Episcopio Vistarama
 
Hmm.. not to bad, but falls to much in the "Reasons why you shoudn't sing in English"
category for me.
 
 
 



Yep.  Really unfortunate when a good Italian band uses English.  I have to pass on it as a matter of principle, for me as an RPI purist the vox really need to be Italian.  Just my opinion of course. 
 
Why is it important for an RPI band to sing in Italian? Many of the other well liked and highly rated  modern prog bands from other European countries sing in English. Opeth being just one example.


This could be a good answer:

http://www.e-prog.net/genre/language_culture.htm




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TheH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 12:26
^^
 
Actually I prefer bands to sing in their native language, Italian is a wonderfull
language to sing in.
 
My main Problem with that Episcopio Visatama vid is that the singer sings in a
terrible English which I find very distracting. He is actually fighting with the language,
and would most likley sound 10 times better in his native tongue.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 14:08
Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

Actually I prefer bands to sing in their native language, Italian is a wonderfull
language to sing in.
 
This! This goes for Italian, Spanish, French and Japanese especially. Sometimes the singer can effect an accent that isn't too distracting when they sing in English, but at least half the time it doesn't work as well as intended.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 16:29
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by TheH TheH wrote:

Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

new Italian prog band underway named Episcopio Vistarama
 
Hmm.. not to bad, but falls to much in the "Reasons why you shoudn't sing in English"
category for me.
 
 
 



Yep.  Really unfortunate when a good Italian band uses English.  I have to pass on it as a matter of principle, for me as an RPI purist the vox really need to be Italian.  Just my opinion of course. 
 
Why is it important for an RPI band to sing in Italian? Many of the other well liked and highly rated  modern prog bands from other European countries sing in English. Opeth being just one example.


In my opinion the gorgeous Italian language is one of the most important markers of the subgenre, integral to the rich and often romantic feel.  It is a stylistic component of the sub..one of the best features and why so many of us love it.  Too often when Italian vocalists use English the results are not so good...and I don't mean that as an insult.  I wouldn't do very good either if I had to try to sing in Italian.  Anyway though Doc, it's just my personal preference of course.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AEProgman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2014 at 14:20
^ My preference also.
 
Its a little early for my annual Jacula - Tardo brush fire burn, but had to cut a few tree limbs away from the house and such, so I will bore the Den again with another Jacula - Tardo fire shot.  Nice day in the 50's to burn, supplied with headphones and 24 oz of High Gravity Rotgut beer.
 
 
The song "Absolution"  from Tardo just gets me every time.  Goose bumps and raised hair on the arms!
 
A loaded question for the gang, but what one RPI song gets that same or similar feeling for any of you?


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Can't remember which track it is, but one of the songs on the Metamorfosi album gets me every time...
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Hello friends.

Antico Adagio by Lino "Capra" Vaccina has FINALLY been reissued by Die Schachtel.  Thought you all might like to know!


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Wow. This sounds terrific.Thumbs Up  I need more 
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coasterzombie!  nice to see you back around my friend!Big smile
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First video from the new Unreal City album is out, with the new album released in the third week of January 2015!



Pretty in line with the first album, although the second half gets a little more jazzy and heavier!

Man, their keyboard player Emanuele Tarasconi is a damn talent! Whole band is great!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hellogoodbye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2014 at 01:49
Michael, check out this one from the last Greg Walker's CD list. Argentina's progressive rock is so close to RPI  Thumbs Up

AVE ROCK - ESPACIOS 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8W5ol4EOsQ



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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

First video from the new Unreal City album is out, with the new album released in the third week of January 2015!



Pretty in line with the first album, although the second half gets a little more jazzy and heavier!

Man, their keyboard player Emanuele Tarasconi is a damn talent! Whole band is great!

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Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Michael, check out this one from the last Greg Walker's CD list. Argentina's progressive rock is so close to RPI  Thumbs Up

<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-ansi-: FR-CA;mso-fareast-:FR-CA;mso-bidi-:AR-SA">AVE ROCK - ESPACIOS </span>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8W5ol4EOsQ




Pierre! I already sent off an order last night, and that was one of the titles I selected! Great minds, human AND duck, think alike, it seems!

I did like the Youtube clips I heard of it!

Thank you, my friend!
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The faster Kangoo of the fifth continent ! Smile




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Pierre, on that same new Walker list, I was curious about this (Non-Italian again! ) title:



http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=8031

The clips that I heard on Youtube didn't sound brilliant, but I still kind of liked them!

Would you recommend it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2014 at 19:44
^ Don't know about Pierre, but I certainly would! But I am a bit partial to the organ-driven prog from the late 60s/early 70s that clearly inspired this.
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