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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2014 at 04:04
Space Bandits is underrated. It's at first somewhat odd hearing Hawkwind with a female vocalist, but I don't mind it. Actually, Wishart's vocals kinda remind me of Siouxsie Sioux... who in turn I think is a Hawkfan herself, how's that for post-post-modern?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2014 at 07:13
We're friends on Facebook. She asked if I'd like to buy her wind synth. I said thankyouno. ;-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2014 at 09:52
Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

Space Bandits is underrated. It's at first somewhat odd hearing Hawkwind with a female vocalist, but I don't mind it. Actually, Wishart's vocals kinda remind me of Siouxsie Sioux... who in turn I think is a Hawkfan herself, how's that for post-post-modern?



I like this one! I saw this tour and I believe it was at the "Ambler Cafe" or "The Chestnut in P.A.  Wishart put on this amazing show with masks and various outfits. As the Hawkwind members would begin to jam, she would quickly run to the back dressing room and dress up like another character for the next song...unlike what you see on the only official concert dvd which features her as the front vocalist. Although I don't recall the title of that dvd, I've seen it so many times and it is nothing like the show I saw in P.A. She appeared in recent years on a Karda Estra release. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2014 at 17:24
Yeah, great DVD that one all the same, I think it was the `Classic Rock Legends' release with the blue cover, Toddler?

Wish she'd appeared on more than one studio album as the lead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 07:25
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Yeah, great DVD that one all the same, I think it was the `Classic Rock Legends' release with the blue cover, Toddler?

Wish she'd appeared on more than one studio album as the lead.

I'm so ancient..I probably had it on VHS too. She didn't stay around for too long and I believe when she left the band she returned to a teaching position. I'm not sure of the details, but I get the impression that she may have been a teacher all along. I'm not sure if she was teaching in public schools or participating in children's workshops. She appears to be an interesting character.i believe that she plays keyboards on 1 track only...from Weird Tales by Karda Estra. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 11:48
Nick Turner released Sphinx in 78' which was the readings/excerpts from the "Egyptian Book Of The Dead". I bought an import copy of the album in "Third Street Jazz and Rock" , Philadelphia P.A. and I noticed immediately that Steve Hillage appeared on it, so it was an exciting experience to hear it. I remember entering all those "New Age" shops in the 80's that insisted on playing cassette tapes of music that was very much "Sugar Art". To place less value in that means the same as placing lesser value in your car because it was more about product  than art. Some ridiculous sugar contrived version of the Egyptian Book Of The Dead backed by cheesy "New Age" drone tone keyboard settings instead of a sound that is sincerely creative from Brian Eno's Music For Films. You'd  think they would have enough sense to play Nick Turner's Sphinx, but no...that is not the point in question after all. Disapprove

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2014 at 14:31
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

Space Bandits is underrated. It's at first somewhat odd hearing Hawkwind with a female vocalist, but I don't mind it. Actually, Wishart's vocals kinda remind me of Siouxsie Sioux... who in turn I think is a Hawkfan herself, how's that for post-post-modern?



I like this one! I saw this tour and I believe it was at the "Ambler Cafe" or "The Chestnut in P.A.  Wishart put on this amazing show with masks and various outfits. As the Hawkwind members would begin to jam, she would quickly run to the back dressing room and dress up like another character for the next song...unlike what you see on the only official concert dvd which features her as the front vocalist. Although I don't recall the title of that dvd, I've seen it so many times and it is nothing like the show I saw in P.A. She appeared in recent years on a Karda Estra release. 


I'm also reading a Siouxsie biography right now, and apparently she's a huge fan of old sci-fi horror movies with quite a few of the more experimental elements in her music coming from trying to adapt that fantastic film soundtrack feel to the context of guitar-based rock music. Maybe it's more of a case of parallel evolution? So far she doesn't mention Hawkwind yet as an inspiration as much as the usual suspects of The Velvet Underground and David Bowie's collaborations with Brian Eno. Beefheart and Zappa too, maybe the occasional Krautrock band as well.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 07:34
Hi Toaster, you may find that the book is more about Siouxsie creating a market for herself than it is about reality. ;-) 

Again, marketing 1, reality 0. "Show me the underground". It appears to have vanished under a sea of money. ;-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 10:55
That's something I noticed as well, she seems to have a very snarky and gossipy personality: Most of the interviews' contents consist of the airing of proverbial dirty laundry from the various music scenes her band was associated with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 11:10
Originally posted by Davesax1965 Davesax1965 wrote:

Hi Toaster, you may find that the book is more about Siouxsie creating a market for herself than it is about reality. ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 11:12
She's a paragon of humility compared to Mark E. Smith from The Fall, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 11:45
At work and listening to Warrior on the Edge of Time. D*mn, this is a great album!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 12:22
^ No doubt !! Warrior is AMAZING.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 12:24
For me, this historic band (weren't they denied entrance to the Isle of Wight festival featuring Hendrix and ELP's first public appearance?) brings much to the aural palette, but unfortunately that means a lot going on in the random moments of attempts to listen to them. It's hard for me to get through a one-album session, and I usually get ear fatigue in doing so. Do like 'Chronicles and a couple of Brock's solo outings, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 12:26
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ No doubt !! Warrior is AMAZING.........

My fave Hawkwind album too.  I think it's by far the proggiest album they ever recorded Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 12:29
Yeah, sorry I briefly turned this into a Siouxsie and the Banshees thread instead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2014 at 22:46
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ No doubt !! Warrior is AMAZING.........


My fave Hawkwind album too.  I think it's by far the proggiest album they ever recorded Wink
You gotta give Levitation (1980) a listen.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2014 at 13:26
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ No doubt !! Warrior is AMAZING.........


My fave Hawkwind album too.  I think it's by far the proggiest album they ever recorded Wink
You gotta give Levitation (1980) a listen.....

I have Levitation too...I love Motorway City but have never really gotten into the rest of it too much.  Do you like it more than Warrior?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2014 at 15:53
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ No doubt !! Warrior is AMAZING.........


My fave Hawkwind album too.  I think it's by far the proggiest album they ever recorded Wink
You gotta give Levitation (1980) a listen.....


I have Levitation too...I love Motorway City but have never really gotten into the rest of it too much.  Do you like it more than Warrior?  
Of course not !! But I love Electric Tepee as much as Warrior.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2014 at 15:55
Sorry, but I like traveling through space. Hawkwind lives there!
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