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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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I will add something to what my other half has already admirably stated: the best new prog bands are very different to whatever stereotype of "classic" prog still survives, on this site or elsewhere. In fact, many of them would not even be called prog according to the "old" criteria. True, there are more than enough bands or artists that churn out well-executed, yet hopelessly derivative stuff for those fans who seem to be stuck in a time warp. However, the stuff that tends NOT to fly under my radar is very much of the "crossover" quality.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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I remember well that interesting discussion we (believe it was Brian and me) had here, it was the one time I ducked back into PA's after we retired, when Nearfest crashed and Farfest burned up on the runway...(the year, 2012, that 'Prog' officially died btw) many bands realize in order to survive and prosper you simply can't churn out the same bullsh*t 70's derivative stuff.. ie Prog Rock...it has been done.. and done FAR FAR better already. Sure we get submissions and bands play that.. good luck finding an audience for it.. the gen pop don't care, and many prog fans don't even care since you are not a NAME group.
Prog fan is a dying breed and has proved by the lack of support to other groups to not give a goddamn about music outside of their nostalgia zone, however there exists a much larger underground movement, which we have been involved with, that supports and encourages progressive music artists and that is where the direction of the music is going and yes... much of it lies in the crossover vein. Others like the brilliant guys (and lady!) from Moraine have tapped into Chinese folk and classical music as an influence and the result are mindblowing. |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17869 |
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![]() ![]() I enjoy a lot bands like Haken, Echolyn and the recent Anathema efforts....but I personally struggle calling it prog and even trying to describe the music to someone else, I find myself using words like alternative, ambient rock....I will have to also use crossover going forward. Just the other day someone on another website asked me if I had bought the new prog album by Flying Colors...In the classic vein I don't think it is prog at all. Today's world I think it is more alternative rock with a dash of traditional hard rock. But that is just me......
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aapatsos ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
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Tells you how little difference I find between keyboards and guitar synths... ![]() Wiki says otherwise but would not take it for granted: Stylistically, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son developed the sounds first heard on Somewhere in Time, although, on this occasion, the synth effects were created by keyboards rather than bass or guitar synthesisers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_Son_of_a_Seventh_Son#Personnel Edited by aapatsos - October 28 2014 at 18:09 |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28368 |
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not very helpfully the sleevenotes say Adrian Smith - Synth Steve Harris - String Synth What is a string synth?! I would take 'Synth' as being of the keyboard variety therefore I think Wiki is right and I am wrong. Damn!
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aapatsos ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 9226 |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28368 |
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Good interview
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Fearabsentia ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Sorry, I thought you were serious
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20616 |
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Iron Maiden is metal devoid of blues! They only deserve to be 'related'!
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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hah. The only keeping Iron Maiden from Prog Metal is the great songwriting and emphasis on tasteful playing.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20616 |
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^And they can play well too!
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Unitron, I think Iron Maiden (to me) is not prog. But what do I know, I seriously don't know much really.
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King Crimson776 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 12 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2779 |
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They don't even belong there.
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Yogaprogyoda ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: July 01 2014 Location: AlwaysSomewhere Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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No, they're only progressive metal in rare moments. The main thread of their material, all their material, is intelligent, epic, theatrical heavy metal…but only a few truly prog moments. But then that's so subjective isn't it? The proggiest they get is stuff like "Strange World," "Prodigal Son," "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" and "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son." Steve Harris does, of course, receive bonus points for wearing a Genesis denim jacket when he was a kid, and for the good taste to cover bands such as Jethro Tull and Nektar. So yes, definitely related to our beloved prog!
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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I see no resemblance between IM and DT, Smurph ![]() ![]() Instrumentally especially not nor Jimmy the Cheese
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Windhawk ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
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I suspect DT might see matters differently though ;-) |
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Websites I work with:
http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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On a "related" note:
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What?
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Windhawk ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
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...also on a related note...
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Websites I work with:
http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Related? Perhaps.
I always wondered how Caravan's Nine Feet Underground would sound like in Maiden's hands.
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