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    Posted: September 11 2014 at 18:12
I rarely get this excited about a music find, but wait till you hear this! I stumbled upon this band when researching about early mellotron use, and this song popped up: http://youtu.be/gwCMzYmtC-s

Manfred Mann's Earth Band is on progarchives, but not his older '60s stuff. As great as that song is, this second song I found, "You're My Girl", is truly MINDBLOWING. Red by King Crimson, anyone? Check it out: http://youtu.be/UMT-2u8rNDo



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2014 at 09:19
Listened to that track.....doesn't really 'sound like' Red to me though there are similar chord structures in it.
Not sure if I would even call it proto prog......decent early track nevertheless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2014 at 12:41

Just so you don't have to copy and paste the URL.

Well, there are similarities and it's quite unusual for it's time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2014 at 12:57
Nice
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2014 at 13:40
@chopper Thanks! When I tried to preview the link it didn't show, so I figured the URL would do. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
@dr wu23 Really? I know it's just the dissonant chords that are probably in the whole-tone scale like Red, but the strange melody, the creepy chimes...it's at least up there with anything on Revolver.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2014 at 03:30
It is in someways unfortunate that the structure of the PA does not permit the "history" of a band to be documented as well as it should. 'As Is' was/is a great Psychedelic album from what is essentially Manfred Mann's Chapter Two, (not really obscure, just a little forgotten), but whether it constitutes Proto-Prog is a matter of debate since Chapter Three, (which was most certainly was Progressive Jazz-Rock), was conceived as a reaction to the two earlier hit-oriented Manfred Mann bands. However, some of the more experimental/psychedelic tracks from 'As Is' (and possibly from the soundtrack to 'Up The Junction') can be seen as Proto-Chapter Three even if the more (proto) art-rock direction of 'Mighty Garvey' moved away from those earlier pscyh/jazz-rock beginnings, but I'm not so sure that makes it Proto-Prog as such.

Chapter Two:

Chapter Three:

Personally, I think Chapter Three is woefully overlooked, overshadowed as it is by the more successful Earth Band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2014 at 09:30
Sounds Proto to me but that will not help.













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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2014 at 14:19
@Dean Cool, I'm still trying out their different periods, but I'll have to try that next.
@SteveG haha well this is progarchives where every sub-subgenre needs to be meticulously categorized. Proto-prog, experimental/psych rock, prog related...whatever, the end result is the same--interesting music that prog fans should like. So The Beach Boys are too pop to be proto. They still rule! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2014 at 14:55
Originally posted by Friday13th Friday13th wrote:

@Dean Cool, I'm still trying out their different periods, but I'll have to try that next.
@SteveG haha well this is progarchives where every sub-subgenre needs to be meticulously categorized. Proto-prog, experimental/psych rock, prog related...whatever, the end result is the same--interesting music that prog fans should like. So The Beach Boys are too pop to be proto. They still rule! 
Welcome aboard F13. Just for the record, I'm no fan of subgenres like my colleagues are but it's all we got, man. Prog On.








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Edited by dr wu23 - September 13 2014 at 23:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2014 at 23:00
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

[QUOTE=SteveG]Sounds Proto to me but that will not help.
 
 
Yes....but then everything sounds like proto prog to you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2014 at 12:56
Originally posted by Friday13th Friday13th wrote:

@chopper Thanks! When I tried to preview the link it didn't show, so I figured the URL would do. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
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It's not that hard, you just click on "insert movie" and copy in the video reference (not the whole YouTube URL). Sometimes you get an error first time saying it can't insert so just do it again and it works.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2014 at 12:59
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

[QUOTE=SteveG]Sounds Proto to me but that will not help.




 

 


Yes....but then everything sounds like proto prog to you.

Wink

 


Uh-Oh, perhaps this is a good time "to take a breather" then.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2014 at 13:23
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


Originally posted by Friday13th Friday13th wrote:

@chopper Thanks! When I tried to preview the link it didn't show, so I figured the URL would do. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
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It's not that hard, you just click on "insert movie" and copy in the video reference (not the whole YouTube URL). Sometimes you get an error first time saying it can't insert so just do it again and it works.

Also, he ought to erase that * s * in * https *.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2014 at 15:11
Oh so it's just that last part of tech gibberish. I get it haha 

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