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Atavachron
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
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Points: 65266
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 04:11 |
logosprog wrote:
This is our last mail to the webmaster of this website.
Hi there. we got six one star rating in one day (2 hours to be precise)...
two options: your reviewers that gave to our album 4 or 5 stars are totally idiots or your rating system has something wrong...
this is what we think and what we are going to publish to our channels next soon. This is not a good feedback to people (us) that use time and money to propose original music. One or more dislike should (!?!) be ok if they come in more than two hours... Viceversa they stink as rotten |
Threats ? Sometimes people abuse a system, deal with it. But don't threaten, it's childish and unbecoming.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Dayvenkirq
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Joined: May 25 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Points: 10970
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 06:23 |
NotAProghead wrote:
thedunno wrote:
I would get rid of the simple ratings at all. Just allow reviews. |
So if you'd like to rate "Foxtrot" (or DTSOM or some other monster album) you have to write one more review which nobody would bother to read to 1000 existing ones? For God's sake no! | Are you saying that the rating (given by the reviewer) makes the review stand out?
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thedunno
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Joined: June 19 2008
Location: netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 14
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 06:40 |
For writing a review the reviewer must take the time and efford to formulate his thoughts. Just allowing reviewes will get rid of the gremlins who just give quick 1 star ratings for pleasure.
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: April 01 2009
Location: Atlanta
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Points: 26138
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 08:02 |
thedunno wrote:
For writing a review the reviewer must take
the time and efford to formulate his thoughts. Just allowing reviewes
will get rid of the gremlins who just give quick 1 star ratings for
pleasure. |
This has been discussed, and the site owner's rationale
of allowing ratings only is to encourage participation in the rating
process by non-English speaking visitors. Only allowing ratings with a
review alienates that sector of the audience. Some may think, "yeah? so
what?" to this, but when considering the economics, it makes sense to
broaden the appeal of the site globally if possible. The thoughtless
1-star mavericks out there are just one such drawback that any system
could encounter. I think the heavy weighting of ratings with reviews
compared to ratings without reviews is a good solution which greatly
compensates for that drawback. Few if any systems we devise could be
perfect.
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My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.
-Kehlog Albran
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: January 22 2009
Location: Magic Theatre
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Points: 23104
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 08:05 |
HolyMoly wrote:
thedunno wrote:
For writing a review the reviewer must take
the time and efford to formulate his thoughts. Just allowing reviewes
will get rid of the gremlins who just give quick 1 star ratings for
pleasure. | This has been discussed, and the site owner's rationale
of allowing ratings only is to encourage participation in the rating
process by non-English speaking visitors. Only allowing ratings with a
review alienates that sector of the audience. Some may think, "yeah? so
what?" to this, but when considering the economics, it makes sense to
broaden the appeal of the site globally if possible. The thoughtless
1-star mavericks out there are just one such drawback that any system
could encounter. I think the heavy weighting of ratings with reviews
compared to ratings without reviews is a good solution which greatly
compensates for that drawback. Few if any systems we devise could be
perfect. |
Completely agree with this Guru-Steve.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: April 01 2009
Location: Atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 26138
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 08:26 |
It's an idea I'm all too familiar with in my day job. I have to devise and implement consistent, defensible methodologies to distribute millions of dollars to over a thousand doctors. No matter what I do, and how fairly I do it, there's always a few complainers who feel they got shortchanged somehow. You just can't please everyone.
Edited by HolyMoly - August 27 2014 at 08:37
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My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.
-Kehlog Albran
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: January 22 2009
Location: Magic Theatre
Status: Offline
Points: 23104
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 08:29 |
I know this all too well, but I'll remember the doctor analogy for future purposes.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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Nogbad_The_Bad
Forum & Site Admin Group
RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team
Joined: March 16 2007
Location: Boston
Status: Offline
Points: 20850
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 08:53 |
thedunno wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I just had a look at a few of the 1 star reviewers of Ut Gret, most have them have just signed up in the last 2 months, have rated thousands of albums and consistently give the couple of hundred RIO albums they rated 1 or 2 stars. Sorry but this is just nuts. They really all have listened to those albums well enough to rate them? If I hated RIO that much I'd stop listening to them after the first few dozen. Bizarre. |
A collaborators review might help a bit to compensate for those losers <hint> |
Oh I'll write one at some stage :)
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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NotAProghead
Special Collaborator
Errors & Omissions Team
Joined: October 22 2005
Location: Russia
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Points: 7862
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 19:23 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Are you saying that the rating (given by the reviewer) makes the review stand out? |
I'm saying that simple ratings should stay.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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thedunno
Forum Newbie
Joined: June 19 2008
Location: netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 14
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Posted: August 28 2014 at 05:54 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I just had a look at a few of the 1 star reviewers of Ut Gret, most have them have just signed up in the last 2 months, have rated thousands of albums and consistently give the couple of hundred RIO albums they rated 1 or 2 stars. Sorry but this is just nuts. They really all have listened to those albums well enough to rate them? If I hated RIO that much I'd stop listening to them after the first few dozen. Bizarre |
ON a closer look : i think those 7 1-star ratings for Ut Gret are all the same guy. Last visit was for all at 24/8 around noon. They gave 1 star ratings to a lot of the same bands and albums and also 5 star ratings to same bands, like RPWL and Resistor which aren't exactly the most high profile bands around.
A bit harsh on Ut Gret though; 7 1-star ratings out of 22 from just 1 person.
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