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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2014 at 16:53
The book of Job might be a helpful book to study on this topic.
And our sign is the finished work of Christ. The perfect life, crucifixion, resurrection, and soon return of the Messiah Jesus Christ. Do we need to demand more? Why should the clay always demand explanation from the potter?
But honestly it really is a struggle, I don't understand why things happen the way they do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2014 at 03:54
Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

The book of Job might be a helpful book to study on this topic.
And our sign is the finished work of Christ. The perfect life, crucifixion, resurrection, and soon return of the Messiah Jesus Christ. Do we need to demand more? Why should the clay always demand explanation from the potter?

I totally agree.

I think there is often too much emphasis on the feeling, when it comes to faith.
Lots of times people have "desert experiences", often for a long time, where they don't feel or experience anything of God.
It's hard, though, I admit!
As a pastor, I sometimes meet people who seem to have many catastrophes at the same time.
Often I don't know what to say to them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2014 at 10:53
The key is to never stop believing regardless of what happens in your life.  It's not for us to know why bad things happen.  A walk with Jesus is not for the weak.  There are perils and pitfalls around every corner.  Just stay on the path and keep going forward. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2014 at 16:34

The bible is written in cryptic language.  It is garbed with metaphors, parables and symbolisms.  It seems to me that those who realize this still take the metaphors verbatim and passages that are literal are taken metaphorically.

Since faith came up, this passage about faith is literal and not figurative. 

 “If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”

Faith is the intuitive power of the soul, it is unchanging.  It can literally move mountains as well as change the orbits of the planets.  “Nothing is impossible.”

Belief is of the ego and can change along with any thought process.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2014 at 17:00
Originally posted by Prog 74 Prog 74 wrote:

The key is to never stop believing regardless of what happens in your life.  It's not for us to know why bad things happen.  A walk with Jesus is not for the weak.  There are perils and pitfalls around every corner.  Just stay on the path and keep going forward. 


Agreed. It's signing up to die! (But really live... you know)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2014 at 17:46
Originally posted by Prog 74 Prog 74 wrote:

The key is to never stop believing regardless of what happens in your life.  It's not for us to know why bad things happen.  A walk with Jesus is not for the weak.  There are perils and pitfalls around every corner.  Just stay on the path and keep going forward. 
I guess i'm weak and if i'm being tested i'm failing miserably.I believe i'm basically a decent person who treats everyone as i would like to be treated.Yet i'm constantly having to deal with never ending bad luck and misfortune.My mom tries to get me to go back to church but i simply cannot believe in it anymore.Sorry if this sounds appalling to anyone.You would have to walk a mile in my shoes to understand.I do consider PA a positive force and theraputic in its own way though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2014 at 11:38
Originally posted by Kentucky_Hawkwindage Kentucky_Hawkwindage wrote:

Originally posted by Prog 74 Prog 74 wrote:

The key is to never stop believing regardless of what happens in your life.  It's not for us to know why bad things happen.  A walk with Jesus is not for the weak.  There are perils and pitfalls around every corner.  Just stay on the path and keep going forward. 
I guess i'm weak and if i'm being tested i'm failing miserably.I believe i'm basically a decent person who treats everyone as i would like to be treated.Yet i'm constantly having to deal with never ending bad luck and misfortune.My mom tries to get me to go back to church but i simply cannot believe in it anymore.Sorry if this sounds appalling to anyone.You would have to walk a mile in my shoes to understand.I do consider PA a positive force and theraputic in its own way though.
I completely understand.  I have only been to church once in the last year or so.  Church has never really been for me.  You can believe and not go to Church.  Christ is everywhere you seek him, not just in some building on Sunday morning.  Believe me I have had my share of bad luck, but like I said a walk with Jesus is not for the weak.  You will be tested.  It's easy to give up and stop believing.  PA is a positive force.  There is a brotherhood here that is very comforting.  And believe me there are many here who are atheists yet they do not judge and treat me with any disrespect.  We accept everyone for who they are.  In a way PA is more like a church should be.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2014 at 11:39
Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

Originally posted by Prog 74 Prog 74 wrote:

The key is to never stop believing regardless of what happens in your life.  It's not for us to know why bad things happen.  A walk with Jesus is not for the weak.  There are perils and pitfalls around every corner.  Just stay on the path and keep going forward. 


Agreed. It's signing up to die! (But really live... you know)
That's very true!  It's a good way to look at it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2014 at 18:33
Happy Easter you guys, hope you have a beautiful day tomorrow with family.  I'm going to.  I am so blessed and grateful for all that has been given to me in this life.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2014 at 19:25
Same to you JIm-I'll be having breakfast with my folks in the morning.
"Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal"   Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2014 at 07:10
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Happy Easter you guys, hope you have a beautiful day tomorrow with family.  I'm going to.  I am so blessed and grateful for all that has been given to me in this life.  


Our oldest child was baptized yesterday morning.  And he's so funny...when the preacher referenced "This young man," Simon said "What young man?"  Confused

LOL

I am thankful for all I have and who I live for.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2014 at 08:14
Congrats Rob...and congrats to the little man!  Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2014 at 09:05
My parents went and saw the movie God's Not Dead last night and really enjoyed it.  Seems to be popular amongst the Christian sect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2014 at 14:42
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Happy Easter you guys, hope you have a beautiful day tomorrow with family.  I'm going to.  I am so blessed and grateful for all that has been given to me in this life.  

It was great. Both at church and with the family.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2014 at 01:25
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Happy Easter you guys, hope you have a beautiful day tomorrow with family.  I'm going to.  I am so blessed and grateful for all that has been given to me in this life.  


Our oldest child was baptized yesterday morning.  And he's so funny...when the preacher referenced "This young man," Simon said "What young man?"  Confused

LOL

I am thankful for all I have and who I live for.


Congrats!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2014 at 07:03
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Happy Easter you guys, hope you have a beautiful day tomorrow with family.  I'm going to.  I am so blessed and grateful for all that has been given to me in this life.  


Our oldest child was baptized yesterday morning.  And he's so funny...when the preacher referenced "This young man," Simon said "What young man?"  Confused

LOL

I am thankful for all I have and who I live for.

Great LOL
Congrats!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2014 at 19:10
This was the music that the choir/orchestra played at Mass today....had to be one of the most beautiful and dramatic pieces of music I've heard. 

Heinrich von Herzogenberg,
Messe in e, Op. 87
Heinrich von Herzogenberg (1843-1900) was an Austri
an composer
and conductor descended from a French aristocratic
family.
He was born in Graz, Austria and studied law,
philosophy and political science at the University of
Vienna,
before turning his energies to music. Early on Herzoge
nberg
was attracted to the “romantic” style of his contempor
ary
Richard Wagner, but after studying J. S. Bach's works
, he be-
came involved in the revival of the baroque tradition and
an
advocate for the “romantic” music of another contempo
rary -
Johannes Brahms. He died suddenly in Wiesbaden, German
y
at age 57. Herzogenberg composed his “large-scale”
Messe in
e, Op. 87
in memory of his close friend and musical collabora-
tor Philipp Spitta. It premiered in Berlin in December o
f 1894.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2014 at 13:25
Hey, a friend of mine on another forum is dealing with cancer pretty bad. He's a young guy, but they don't expect him to live too much longer. Please keep him and the other terminal illness victims (including presdoug's dad and numerous relatives and friends of Scott) in your prayers.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2014 at 20:52
Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Hey, a friend of mine on another forum is dealing with cancer pretty bad. He's a young guy, but they don't expect him to live too much longer. Please keep him and the other terminal illness victims (including presdoug's dad and numerous relatives and friends of Scott) in your prayers.


Tony I can help.  What is your friend's first name?
I will say a rosary for him and the others you mentioned. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2014 at 20:11
Here's a bit of Ambrosian chant, a style that came from the Milan area in about the 4th century.   A bit of a different flavor from Gregorian.  If you like it there's much more on YT if you search Ambrosian chant.  Enjoy!  Smile





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