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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2014 at 07:19
^^^ Entirely a matter of opinion of course, re; WYWH.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2014 at 05:32
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

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Let me put it this way, WYWH is the album that works best for a general audience rather  than a hardcore PF audience.  It has a singalong easy acoustic track and a lush, emotional epic with more of a traditional prog structure.  Notice how many hardcore Genesis fans insist Nursery Cryme is their best album while prog fans in general gravitate to SEBTP.  WYWH performs the same function with respect to Floyd.  It is not surprising that WYWH often gets hailed as their best but as a Floyd fan, I would not agree.  There are parts that I find positively dreary though on the whole I do like it a lot.


There's something missing from Wish you were Here.Shocked It feels like an incomplete album to me. My favourite track is actually Welcome to the Machine. I have always loved the intro to SOYCD. More than I like the song anyway.

WYWH is musical perfection. Hercules makes a good point too in that " Echoes" off Meddle might be their best piece
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2014 at 05:02
SOYCD - intro - is sublime and I also like the simple synthesizer outro as well.....I agree that it sort of lacks something...... (it also has sax which I don't like in most cases)....I still think that it's PF's best recording by a mile though!!!
I would consider myself a hardcore Early Genesis fan - and although NC is excellent - it is bettered by Foxtrot and the incomparible SEBTP...which is in the top five of most peoples Symphonic prog releases!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2014 at 04:32
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:


Let me put it this way, WYWH is the album that works best for a general audience rather  than a hardcore PF audience.  It has a singalong easy acoustic track and a lush, emotional epic with more of a traditional prog structure.  Notice how many hardcore Genesis fans insist Nursery Cryme is their best album while prog fans in general gravitate to SEBTP.  WYWH performs the same function with respect to Floyd.  It is not surprising that WYWH often gets hailed as their best but as a Floyd fan, I would not agree.  There are parts that I find positively dreary though on the whole I do like it a lot.


There's something missing from Wish you were Here. It feels like an incomplete album to me. My favourite track is actually Welcome to the Machine. I have always loved the intro to SOYCD. More than I like the song anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 20:46
Let me put it this way, WYWH is the album that works best for a general audience rather  than a hardcore PF audience.  It has a singalong easy acoustic track and a lush, emotional epic with more of a traditional prog structure.  Notice how many hardcore Genesis fans insist Nursery Cryme is their best album while prog fans in general gravitate to SEBTP.  WYWH performs the same function with respect to Floyd.  It is not surprising that WYWH often gets hailed as their best but as a Floyd fan, I would not agree.  There are parts that I find positively dreary though on the whole I do like it a lot.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 20:41
Originally posted by Rihanna Rihanna wrote:

I see all love Animals, I think its only a good album, not a masterpiece as Dark Side Of The Moon, WYWH and The Wall.
The songs are from awesome to only okay, Sheep is a masterpiece the rest are good to decent. Wow i dont see the greatness all gives it, its not my favorite from Pink Floyd.

I like the album but it is just maybe a strong 7/10.

I always thought it was Wish You Were Here that was way overrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:53
Originally posted by notesworth notesworth wrote:

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The guitar tone on this album, especially on Sheep, has that big heavy metal feel though the riffs are not actually all that metal-like.  

Strange - my main problem with "Sheep" is the guitar tone is way too wimpy. Finally they get to rock out, what I always wanted to hear, and the guitar sounds way too clean to fit the music.

From what I remember, I liked "Dogs" okay, but not the rest of the album. I'm not a huge Pink Floyd fan. Count Animals as a great example of that. It's not a bad album, it just leaves me cold like most of Floyd's stuff does.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:41
Sheep is awesome,my favorite song on the album.I can find nothing wrong with the song or the guitar,especially it being "wimpy".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:35
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

The guitar tone on this album, especially on Sheep, has that big heavy metal feel though the riffs are not actually all that metal-like.  

Strange - my main problem with "Sheep" is the guitar tone is way too wimpy. Finally they get to rock out, what I always wanted to hear, and the guitar sounds way too clean to fit the music.

From what I remember, I liked "Dogs" okay, but not the rest of the album. I'm not a huge Pink Floyd fan. Count Animals as a great example of that. It's not a bad album, it just leaves me cold like most of Floyd's stuff does.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 17:32
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

It's their best album imo. It's not as varied or groundbreaking as DSOTM, it's not as well produced or fresh sounding as WYWH, but for some reason it encapsulates mid to late 70's Britian perfectly. It has some of the agression of punk in places, as well as some of the best lyrics Waters ever wrote. Dogs is the ultimate Pink Floyd epic. Far more mature and more edgy than Echoes.

I don't think so. Echoes is by far the best thing Floyd ever did - one of the best moments in all prog.

Animals is a very fine album, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 08:04
I love it

I was reminded of this Animals album coveer yesterday when I saw THE SIMPSONS MOVIE. The Pig was sent sailing over the reactor plant when Burns siad if Pigs could fly.... very funny. great album... underrated.... overrated... all of the above... its a damn classic!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2014 at 07:08
Not as good as the book.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 20:51
Originally posted by proggman proggman wrote:

Animals is definitely one of Pink Floyd's best albums and it's not overrated.

Whoever thought Animals was overrated needs their head examined. If anything, it's underrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 20:46
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Aminals presaged 80s Stadium Rock, all it lacked was power ballads, sing-a-long choruses and an over-abundance of Spandex™

It did however, have a pig.
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But was it pink?
 
At least at Anaheim Stadium it was very good. Compared to the bootleg version of "Pigs" at Anaheim stadium it has an extended guitar part that might be considered a power ballad. Sort of! But the background singers did have Spandex, and about that sing-a-long, we might have to define that a bit better!
Fairly sure the pig was Pink at the Wembley show. However, I seriously doubt that the backing singers wore Spandex™ because as far as I am aware they didn't use backing singers on the In The Flesh tour.
I saw them during that tour (Cleveland Stadium, World Series of Rock -- had to drive back to Detroit afterward completely stoned). And if I recall correctly, there were no background singers, because Floyd played both the Wish You Were Here and Animals albums in full, with only a few other songs thrown in as encores.

But the pig was definitely pink (and I also vaguely remember big puppets?). And everyone did sing-along to "Wish You Were Here". And I was in a stadium. But I wasn't wearing spandex. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 20:12
Animals is definitely one of Pink Floyd's best albums and it's not overrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 19:06
Animals is excellent, though not in my Top 5 Floyd albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 18:30
Originally posted by Rihanna Rihanna wrote:

I see all love Animals, I think its only a good album, not a masterpiece as Dark Side Of The Moon, WYWH and The Wall.
The songs are from awesome to only okay, Sheep is a masterpiece the rest are good to decent. Wow i dont see the greatness all gives it, its not my favorite from Pink Floyd.

I like the album but it is just maybe a strong 7/10.
This should belong in a review. No need to start a thread about that. If you want to be heard, know that everyone else deserves to be heard just as much as you do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 18:20
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Aminals presaged 80s Stadium Rock, all it lacked was power ballads, sing-a-long choruses and an over-abundance of Spandex™

It did however, have a pig.
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But was it pink?
 
At least at Anaheim Stadium it was very good. Compared to the bootleg version of "Pigs" at Anaheim stadium it has an extended guitar part that might be considered a power ballad. Sort of! But the background singers did have Spandex, and about that sing-a-long, we might have to define that a bit better!
Fairly sure the pig was Pink at the Wembley show. However, I seriously doubt that the backing singers wore Spandex™ because as far as I am aware they didn't use backing singers on the In The Flesh tour.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 16:42
No way is WYWH too commercial, nice fairie story though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2014 at 16:34
^Commercial?? What is NOT commercial for you ? Classical Music ? Tell me another, would you please?

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