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Ooooh, I never liked 'Flesh And Blood' Angry      'Avalon' was much better.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Ooooh, I never liked 'Flesh And Blood' Angry      'Avalon' was much better.

Avalon has the excellent "More Than This" (which I like much more than anything on "Flesh and Blood") but not much else for my taste.  
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Finally got an LP copy of this Mackay solo for 5 bucks !! It's a decent listen, nothing outrageous. I can hear a bit of Roxy and early Eno stylings here and there. Great guest list, and some of Paul Thompson's most exciting drumming. Thompson and Roger Glover being the prominent rhythm section !!
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Ugh, I've got McKay/Manzanera Up In Smoke from many years ago.  It's awful. hahahaha  Phil has been doing some great solo stuff though.   And the last Ferry album, Olympia is excellent.  BTW the top 5 or 10 - everything on Viva. Big smile


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 11 2014 at 05:32
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

1. everything off the first four albums - Country Life has some quite "Canterbury" moments.
2. Ferry, Manzanera, Mackay, Eno and Thompson. Though Jobson, Gustafson and Wetton helped.
3. it was because they were so radically different and excessive, melding Art Rock with glam and prog in equal amounts that looked nostalgically futuristic and futuristiclly nostalgic.
That works for me though I would mention several I like a lot:
 
In Every dream Home A heartache
Thrill of it All
Both Ends Burning
Mother Of Pearl
If There Is Something
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Well, I am a devoted fanboy since the masterful debut , as I got that as a pre-release. I have never looked back  since, convinced 100% of RM's progressive credentials (sorry Trane, we disagree again). They simply shocked the hippy-denim clad universe with some blazing material , foundations for many styles to come . In Every Dream Home and  The Bogus Man (electronica) , while Editions of You , Re-Make/Re-Model and Do the Strand indicated to punkers the way ahead. In fact, there was constant 'progression' , the edgy Manifesto, the slick Flesh + Blood (a great album,sorry!) and the suave Avalon. One of the most influential bands ever. 

1- Beauty Queen
2- My Only Love
3- If There's Something
4- Mother of Pearl
5- Ladytron
6- Sentimental Fool
7- In Every Dream Home
8- Avalon
9- Grey Lagoons
10- Song for Europe 
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"Avalon" was the first compact disc I ever saw.  My dad bought a CD player in 1985 and got "Avalon" at the same time.  We'd already played the vinyl copy (and other albums of theirs) to death.  He was a pretty big Roxy fan at the time and it rubbed off on me.  I think what I liked best from the early (first 4) albums was the unpredictability, the instability - hard rock guitar, tender piano, harsh or soothing sax, weird electronics, low growls and romantic croons could all happen at any moment.  Not easy listening but not unpleasant either.  The next few albums were a lot smoother but (at their best) benefited from a mature and sophisticated songwriting flair on the part of Ferry, Manzanera and Mackay.  Avalon is a different story, but it's about as lovely as "new romantic" styled music gets.

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2. Three and Nine
3. Sunset
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BOGUS MAN, IN EVERY DREAMHOME....., THE THRILL OF IT ALL, CASANOVA, AMAZONA, 2HB, END OF THE LINE, SPIN ME ROUND, TRUE TO LIFE, &THE MAIN THING, to round it to 10.

Why? Nothing comes close to this kind of musical universe. Then and now, always ahead, never on time. The mark of geniuses.
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Bitter-Sweet
In Every Dreamhome a Heartache
Out of the Blue
Love is the Drug
Both Ends Burning (Live)

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:


Ugh, I've got McKay/Manzanera Up In Smoke from many years ago.  It's
awful. hahahaha  Phil has been doing some great solo stuff though.   And
the last Ferry album, Olympia is excellent.  BTW the top 5 or 10 - everything on Viva. Big smile
Mackay isn't known so much for being a Prog giant for his work, although listening through to his Eddie Riff album, there is a definite crossover prog vibe to this work, and it is cool to hear him sing a couple of tracks.
He is currently working with an ensemble called 'The Metaphors', and from the few clips I've heard they sound really good. Worth looking into. He even has a few 'hot' chicks playing concert harp and keyboards. What he added to Roxy was absolutely priceless.
Oh yeah, original Roxy drummer, Paul Thompson, is his current drummer !!

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^ MacKay wrote a book on the use of keyboards in rock music and cited Keith Emerson as the prime exponent.  He played saxophone for Eddie and the Hot Rots too. 
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^ MacKay also wrote the music for the Rock Follies TV series.
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Also, Mackay was responsible for giving ENO the VCS3 Synthi he bought around Roxy's formation. Talk about forward thinking.....!!
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I remember being disappointed with the Resolving Contradictions album, but I haven't heard it for over thirty years! In Search of Eddie Riff, I haven't heard at all.  
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I see Roxy Music as a parody of prog rock. the question is: should such a parody be included on this site? my opinion is "yes". guys, where is your sense of humor?
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^ That's a little harsh, Jean.  But RM is an acquired taste.Smile  Damn it my original post took too long and didn't go through. Cry

Anyway to try to restate in short.  I think Avalon was a beautiful piece or prog/pop crossover if you will.  I'm not really a fan of RM's earlier albums but I am a big fan of the Enos (Brian and Roger).


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 16 2014 at 08:37
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

^ That's a little harsh, Jean.  But RM is an acquired taste.Smile  Damn it my original post took too long and didn't go through. Cry

Anyway to try to restate in short.  I think Avalon was a beautiful piece or prog/pop crossover if you will.  I'm not really a fan of RM's earlier albums but I am a big fan of the Enos (Brian and Roger).
 
I always saw them as art rock more than prog but those two genres bleed into one another anyway.
But imho Country Life and Siren should be in any serious music collection. Both are very  good albums with a number of styles merged into their unique sound. I have all of their LP's up to and including Avalon which is an excellent mellow selection of songs. At that point Ferry developed into the 'crooner' he always really wanted to be imo and that classic Roxy sound was  gone.
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Roxy Music were great, but Bryan Ferry is an acquired taste for sure. Everything from For Your Pleasure to Viva Roxy, inlcuding Ferry's solo work, is worth hearing. Manzanera's Listen Now is good too.
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Pyjamarama
Mother of Pearl
All I want is you
Street Life
Do the Strand
Casanova
The Bogus Man
Dance Away
Oh Yeah
A Song for Europe
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For Your Pleasure
Bogus Man
Ain't That So
Both Ends Burning
More Than This
Love Is The Drug
In Every Dream Home A Heartache
Dance Away
My Only Love
Avalon

and a bonus for the ultimate cover Jealous Guy. Utter bliss. They di with that what Hendrix did with Watchtower - own it. Hurricane and * Miles High are excellent versions but Jealous Guy was made for Roxy. What a build up....

Their ability to be quite out there like the first album to the smooth later albums.
Vocals.
Manzanera's guitar work, tasteful use of reverb and delay and occasionally getting wild like on the somewhat The underrated but badly covered Heart Still beating live album.
Their rock band equivalent  of being David Bowie making challenging music appealing.
Beautifully constructed songs, nothing out of place.

... plus they are excellent in concert (from the albums that I do have anyway, such as Viva.

Seemingly pop in the visuals but really quite arty in the music.
Make a success out of rather non-commercial music (the debut and showing where it can go; the second.)
Make credible music out of melodic hooks (the dreaded pop in the world of prog).
Music that can function in the mind as well as the dance floor.
Making art rock for mainstream listening and in later years making mainstream oriented music for art rock listeners.
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