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moshkito
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 08:40 | |
This is the problem with categorizing music so much and taking it seriously. It takes the ability to find and listen to different things that fit the description even better. And "Eos" (except the first cut maybe), is PERFECT chamber music, if ever there was one -- and this is something that the ECM group devoted its time and effort to a LOT. The stuff that Egberto Gismonti has with his guitar solo andthen with Charlie Haden and Jan Garbarek, and Nana Vasconcellos, is pure Chamber music ... but will never get that credit because we don't listen to music. We listen to idealistic definitions that specify three or four artists only!
It's fabulous music! End of story!
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dr wu23
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:28 | |
Even after listening to the suggestions on this thread I still don't understand exactly what qualifies as 'chamber prog'....many of the bands listed sound nothing alike . Can some one give a concise definition ?
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Stool Man
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 10:34 | |
Never heard of the phrase. What is Chamber Prog, and how is it defined, and what subgenre is it a subgenre of?
And where does this leave Prog Funk?
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moshkito
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 11:42 | |
That's part of the discussion.
I'm already thinking that the person is expecting Genesis with cellos and violins instead of keyboards! Or ELP!
I have to listen to some of these suggestions, but I'm waiting for METAL CHAMBER! I guess that Fates Warning is the owner of that one!
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moshkito
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 11:43 | |
NOOOOOO ... wait for CHAMBER FUNK! That would be more fun!
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schizoidman
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 11:56 | |
Strictly imho, I think the archetypal Chamber Prog band is The Penguin Cafe Orchestra.
Muscians and instrumentation:
Simon Jeffes - guitar, cuatro, ukulele, violin, pennywhistle, piano, harmonium, various other instruments
Geoffrey Richardson - guitar, ukulele, viola, bass instrument, bongos Steve Nye - cuatro, electric piano Neil Rennie - ukulele Peter Veitch - violin, accordion Gavyn Wright - violin Helen Liebmann - cello Giles Leaman - oboe Braco - drums, bongos, shaker Julio Segovia - cymbals Tull's "The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles" is Chamber Prog.
I'll try to come up with a concise definition.......
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schizoidman
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:04 | |
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aprusso
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:07 | |
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After Crying some Echolyn some Gentle Giant Pierrot Lunaire some Terraced Garden
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moshkito
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:09 | |
You do KNOW that he is one of the Caravan folks, right? And there is a lot in Caravan that could easily qualify as Chamber, if we were not so darn stuck on pop music!
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schizoidman
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:14 | |
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schizoidman
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 12:23 | |
No, I didn't realize that. Good stuff about Geoffrey:
It's almost impossible for a person not to have a soft spot for pop music as it's what most of us heard as children.
Unless we're Tony Banks or Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman whose parents subjected them to a strict classical diet
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 16:03 | |
Wouldn't that be Alamaailman Vasarat? 2 Cello's, trombone & saxaphone, plus keys & drums.
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Ian
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zravkapt
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 17:37 | |
Here ya go: |
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 18:02 | |
Haven't listened to enough stuff in this vein, though I am familiar with a few of the bands. But I actually have some first-hand experience with this kind of music; I'm studying music composition at Drury University and some of the things that the other composers have written sound a lot like chamber rock; one of my friends was working on a piece that sounded a lot like Yes, except with classical instrumentation instead of rock instrumentation! Some of this guy's stuff, also, sounds kind of like "chamber prog"
I even wrote a piece in this vein a little while ago. A composition for string quartet and bass guitar, vaguely reminiscent of King Crimson. |
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 19:19 | |
Wonderful album but Archaia are closer to Zeuhl than anything else. Instrumentation is Guitar, Keys, Bass, Drums, Percussion, so not very Chamber. Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - December 17 2013 at 19:20 |
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Ian
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proggman
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 19:47 | |
I think Chamber Prog is perfect to describe iamthemorning.
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 19:51 | |
Try Kayo Dot, particularly the new album Hubardo. Or the first one, Choirs of the Eye. |
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 20:09 | |
The Masters.......Flairck
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pfloyd
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 20:35 | |
Yes. Generations sans fur is probably my favorite rio album. I also love Les espaces inquiets and Phase 4. Universe zeros first five albums are also amazing.
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Padraic
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Posted: December 17 2013 at 20:37 | |
Chamber pot?
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