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Points: 18106 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 08:40
Originally posted by AreYouHuman AreYouHuman wrote:

^Moshkito: So agree with you on ECM and the “Eos” album (which was co-credited to Rypdal and David Darling).

I always thought Le Orme’s “Florian” had a chamber-music feel.
 
This is the problem with categorizing music so much and taking it seriously. It takes the ability to find and listen to different things that fit the description even better. And "Eos" (except the first cut maybe), is PERFECT chamber music, if ever there was one -- and this is something that the ECM group devoted its time and effort to a LOT. The stuff that Egberto Gismonti has with his guitar solo andthen with Charlie Haden and Jan Garbarek, and Nana Vasconcellos, is pure Chamber music ... but will never get that credit because we don't listen to music. We listen to idealistic definitions that specify three or four artists only!
 
It's fabulous music! End of story!
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Even after listening to the suggestions on this thread I still don't understand exactly what qualifies as 'chamber prog'....many of the bands listed sound nothing alike . Can some one give a concise definition ?
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Never heard of the phrase.  What is Chamber Prog, and how is it defined, and what subgenre is it a subgenre of?  

And where does this leave Prog Funk? Wink
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Points: 18106 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 11:42
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Even after listening to the suggestions on this thread I still don't understand exactly what qualifies as 'chamber prog'....many of the bands listed sound nothing alike . Can some one give a concise definition ?
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That's part of the discussion.
 
I'm already thinking that the person is expecting Genesis with cellos and violins instead of keyboards! Or ELP!
 
I have to listen to some of these suggestions, but I'm waiting for METAL CHAMBER! I guess that Fates Warning is the owner of that one!
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Points: 18106 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 11:43
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Never heard of the phrase.  What is Chamber Prog, and how is it defined, and what subgenre is it a subgenre of?  

And where does this leave Prog Funk? Wink
 
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Even after listening to the suggestions on this thread I still don't understand exactly what qualifies as 'chamber prog'....many of the bands listed sound nothing alike . Can some one give a concise definition ?
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Strictly imho, I think the archetypal Chamber Prog band is The Penguin Cafe Orchestra.
 
Muscians and instrumentation:
Simon Jeffes - guitar, cuatro, ukulele, violin, pennywhistle, piano, harmonium, various other instruments
Geoffrey Richardson - guitar, ukulele, viola, bass instrument, bongos
Steve Nye - cuatro, electric piano
Neil Rennie - ukulele
Peter Veitch - violin, accordion
Gavyn Wright - violin
Helen Liebmann - cello
Giles Leaman - oboe
Braco - drums, bongos, shaker
Julio Segovia - cymbals
 
Tull's "The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles" is Chamber Prog.
 
I'll try to come up with a concise definition.......
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

And where does this leave Prog Funk? Wink
 
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Originally posted by schizoidman schizoidman wrote:

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Muscians and instrumentation:
Geoffrey Richardson - guitar, ukulele, viola, bass instrument, bongos
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You do KNOW that he is one of the Caravan folks, right? And there is a lot in Caravan that could easily qualify as Chamber, if we were not so darn stuck on pop music!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
NOOOOOO ... wait for CHAMBER FUNK! That would be more fun!
 
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by schizoidman schizoidman wrote:

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Muscians and instrumentation:
Geoffrey Richardson - guitar, ukulele, viola, bass instrument, bongos
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You do KNOW that he is one of the Caravan folks, right? And there is a lot in Caravan that could easily qualify as Chamber, if we were not so darn stuck on pop music!
 
No, I didn't realize that. Good stuff about Geoffrey:
 
It's almost impossible for a person not to have a soft spot for pop music as it's what most of us heard as children.
 
Unless we're Tony Banks or Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman whose parents subjected them to a strict classical diet Wink
 
 


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
I have to listen to some of these suggestions, but I'm waiting for METAL CHAMBER! I guess that Fates Warning is the owner of that one!
 
Wouldn't that be Alamaailman Vasarat? 2 Cello's, trombone & saxaphone, plus keys & drums.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
NOOOOOO ... wait for CHAMBER FUNK! That would be more fun!

Here ya go:
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Haven't listened to enough stuff in this vein, though I am familiar with a few of the bands.  But I actually have some first-hand experience with this kind of music; I'm studying music composition at Drury University and some of the things that the other composers have written sound a lot like chamber rock; one of my friends was working on a piece that sounded a lot like Yes, except with classical instrumentation instead of rock instrumentation!  Some of this guy's stuff, also, sounds kind of like "chamber prog"

I even wrote a piece in this vein a little while ago.  A composition for string quartet and bass guitar, vaguely reminiscent of King Crimson.
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Points: 21343 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 19:19
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:


Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

NOOOOOO ... wait for CHAMBER FUNK! That would be more fun!

Here ya go:


Wonderful album but Archaia are closer to Zeuhl than anything else.

Instrumentation is Guitar, Keys, Bass, Drums, Percussion, so not very Chamber.

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I think Chamber Prog is perfect to describe iamthemorning. Smile
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2013 at 19:51
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Even after listening to the suggestions on this thread I still don't understand exactly what qualifies as 'chamber prog'....many of the bands listed sound nothing alike . Can some one give a concise definition ?
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That's part of the discussion.
 
I'm already thinking that the person is expecting Genesis with cellos and violins instead of keyboards! Or ELP!
 
I have to listen to some of these suggestions, but I'm waiting for METAL CHAMBER! I guess that Fates Warning is the owner of that one!

Try Kayo Dot, particularly the new album Hubardo. Or the first one, Choirs of the Eye.
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Yes. Generations sans fur is probably my favorite rio album. I also love Les espaces inquiets and Phase 4. Universe zeros first five albums are also amazing. 
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