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☆Timelessd
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Posted: November 17 2013 at 12:43 |
Fantastic album, huge fan.
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progbethyname
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Posted: November 19 2013 at 17:10 |
Oh Tales. I shall give you one more hug for all your greatness you have given me before I leave this forum.
40 years baby!!!
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Progging
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Posted: November 21 2013 at 14:12 |
Great album, very progressive, great performance from Jon Anderson!
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Genital Giant
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Posted: November 21 2013 at 19:34 |
I'm in agreement with Wakeman that they had enough material for a great single album, but not a double album. I still listen to it though, regardless of the less than wonderful moments. The only tune that I don't really listen to is "The Ancient" which I only like for "Leaves of Green". While I appreciate what Howe was trying to do on that tune with his pedal steel, trying to do a more micro-tonal thing, the effect of it is pretty awful. He doesn't have any experience playing micro-tonal music, and it shows.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: November 21 2013 at 20:14 |
It's good but it's usually too much to take in in one listen. Not my favorite by the affirmative boys but it's in my top half dozen probably.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: November 21 2013 at 20:17 |
Genital Giant wrote:
I'm in agreement with Wakeman that they had enough material for a great single album, but not a double album. I still listen to it though, regardless of the less than wonderful moments. The only tune that I don't really listen to is "The Ancient" which I only like for "Leaves of Green". While I appreciate what Howe was trying to do on that tune with his pedal steel, trying to do a more micro-tonal thing, the effect of it is pretty awful. He doesn't have any experience playing micro-tonal music, and it shows.
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I agree with Rick's assessment too for the most part. However, it has sort of grown on me over time. I haven't heard it lately though but I plan on getting it again soon. You lost me with some of your comments but I agree that it would have been really good as a single disc(I feel the same way about Lamb).
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Dellinger
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Posted: November 21 2013 at 20:55 |
Prog_Traveller wrote:
Genital Giant wrote:
I'm in agreement with Wakeman that they had enough material for a great single album, but not a double album. I still listen to it though, regardless of the less than wonderful moments. The only tune that I don't really listen to is "The Ancient" which I only like for "Leaves of Green". While I appreciate what Howe was trying to do on that tune with his pedal steel, trying to do a more micro-tonal thing, the effect of it is pretty awful. He doesn't have any experience playing micro-tonal music, and it shows.
| I agree with Rick's assessment too for the most part. However, it has sort of grown on me over time. I haven't heard it lately though but I plan on getting it again soon. You lost me with some of your comments but I agree that it would have been really good as a single disc(I feel the same way about Lamb). |
I'm with you guys too. Perhaps the album would have lost a bit of it's grandness and bigger than life sensation. But I truly believe it could have been a 5 star album in my book if they had trimmed it a bit. As it is, I guess I might give it 4 stars, mainly on the strength of "Revealing Science of God". By the way, which is that "Leaves of Green" segment you talk about? I think I've heard something about it before, but it's not marked as such in the album, where there is no sub-divisons within the songs at all. If there are suposed to be some subdivisons on the songs, or separated segments, I'd be interested to know. Perhaps it's something like the "Soon" segment of Gates of Delirium, which is not marked on the album, but everyone knows about it.
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Kazza3
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Posted: November 21 2013 at 22:04 |
'Leaves of Green' is the name given to the acoustic section near the end of the Ancient.
I think I read somewhere a while ago that Jon recently (in the last 10 years, I think) tried to get a cut 50-min version of the album released, but the album wouldn't let him? Dunno if it's true, it'd be interesting, but I think it'd ruin it for m.e
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bob8822
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 02:17 |
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ranks very high in my list of all-time favorite albums actually.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 14:57 |
Count me in as one of the few people who really like "the ancient." It has this strange otherworldly quality and I think it goes with the album cover more than any other track on the album.
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Dellinger
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Posted: November 22 2013 at 21:45 |
Kazza3 wrote:
'Leaves of Green' is the name given to the acoustic section near the end of the Ancient.I think I read somewhere a while ago that Jon recently (in the last 10 years, I think) tried to get a cut 50-min version of the album released, but the album wouldn't let him? Dunno if it's true, it'd be interesting, but I think it'd ruin it for m.e
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The last 6 min (or the last 4)? And yeah, I think this was actually the song I liked the least, but those last 6 min are definitley the nicest part of it.
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iluvmarillion
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 02:12 |
I'll never understand why TFTO cops so much criticism for being over long when it clocks in under eighty minutes, while we get mindless self indulgent drivel praising God and Jesus Christ from Neal Morse which stretches beyond 2 hours.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: November 23 2013 at 04:40 |
iluvmarillion wrote:
we get mindless self indulgent drivel praising God and Jesus Christ from Neal Morse which stretches beyond 2 hours.
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Hey !! Ease up, tiger - Morse is God
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ebil0505
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Posted: November 24 2013 at 18:37 |
I always thought it would be up there in the prog charts but apparently most people think otherwise, which is a shame. It is a great album after all.
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qwiksand
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Posted: December 04 2013 at 13:59 |
Bought this album when it came out and I was a tender 16 year old. Loved it then and have loved it ever since. Have to say I'm baffled at why it has such a low rating on here since I'd have thought it would be regarded as a peak of progressive music.
Anyhow a little story behind this as we had a 'trendy' music teacher who played us some Pink Floyd and allowed us to bring in albums to play. I took in Tales one day and he initially took his normal 'oh dear' attitude to the kids' music. A few years later when we became colleagues, he told me that he really rather liked that album and that it got him interested in Yes!
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geekfreak
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Posted: December 26 2013 at 13:20 |
I`ve been listening to it over the. Last few Christmas days. I`ve been
into this masterful, amazing, music. From the age of 13yrs old. Its Been a friend all the way. With the good/bad times.
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threaz
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Posted: December 26 2013 at 15:41 |
My second album by Yes in my newly made vinyl collection. Great piece of music and the artistic peak of band. It's worth mentioning, it has to be taken as a whole, I mean the artwork and the music music. This is a classical example of gatefold splendour.
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Finnforest
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Posted: December 26 2013 at 16:37 |
It's an album I now cherish only annually during the Christmas season. After 30 years of enjoying it gets better every year, almost has a religious quality to it for me. Like a classical performance or even a solemn high mass it unfolds and it envelopes...i can imagine Anderson and Howe having to drag the others through this kicking and screaming, and for the benefit of the ages I'm so happy they persevered. And so each time I look at the night winter sky it seems little snippets of the music pop into my mind complimenting the starts and moon, I hear them and I am taken somewhere, at one with something, hard to explain but I feel I understand what Anderson was doing here-can music drag one into the mystery of the divine. I savor it and I reflect. Hidden melodies, soundtrack of thoughts and emotions. And there is the whole musical aspect itself that is worthy of great respect, incredible composition, each little rabbit hole of exploration and a damn good many of them successful, particularly Howe and Anderson. I don't care about celebrity at all, but if I could have the chance to meet any "rock star" I would want to sit and talk to Anderson about this album. Perhaps my favorite work of rock music, certainly in my top 5.
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progbethyname
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Posted: December 27 2013 at 09:56 |
Finnforest wrote:
It's an album I now cherish only annually during the Christmas season. After 30 years of enjoying it gets better every year, almost has a religious quality to it for me. Like a classical performance or even a solemn high mass it unfolds and it envelopes...i can imagine Anderson and Howe having to drag the others through this kicking and screaming, and for the benefit of the ages I'm so happy they persevered. And so each time I look at the night winter sky it seems little snippets of the music pop into my mind complimenting the starts and moon, I hear them and I am taken somewhere, at one with something, hard to explain but I feel I understand what Anderson was doing here-can music drag one into the mystery of the divine. I savor it and I reflect. Hidden melodies, soundtrack of thoughts and emotions. And there is the whole musical aspect itself that is worthy of great respect, incredible composition, each little rabbit hole of exploration and a damn good many of them successful, particularly Howe and Anderson. I don't care about celebrity at all, but if I could have the chance to meet any "rock star" I would want to sit and talk to Anderson about this album. Perhaps my favorite work of rock music, certainly in my top 5. |
Well said and certainly deserves your high Praises.
Incredibly special album. Proving to be timeless as well.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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smartpatrol
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Posted: December 27 2013 at 13:06 |
One of my favorite Yes albums. Sure it would've been better if the songs were more to the point, but it's still good, nonetheless
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