Censorship

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: In 1587, Pope Pius IX castrated several statues in the Vatican....But hey, it was 450 years ago, despite this fact, people still criticized the vandalism towards art (Including myself). I believed we had advanced a lot since then, but now Google takes us back in time to more uncivilized eras. It's a change, and the blackmailing is worst. Iván

I like that analogy: Now Google is a self-appointed cyber pope!

refugee wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: In 1587, Pope Pius IX castrated several statues in the Vatican....But hey, it was 450 years ago, despite this fact, people still criticized the vandalism towards art (Including myself). I believed we had advanced a lot since then, but now Google takes us back in time to more uncivilized eras. It's a change, and the blackmailing is worst. Iván I like that analogy: Now Google is a self-appointed cyber pope!

Just out of curiosity – would this picture have been allowed (I only post a link)?:

http://media.photobucket.com/user/countzander/media/art/NaissancedeVenusBirthofVenuscensore.jpg.html?filters[term]=birth%20of%20venus%20censored&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=0#/user/countzander/media/art/NaissancedeVenusBirthofVenuscensore.jpg.html?filters[term]=birth%20of%20venus%20censored&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=0&_suid=1381676730016037213198868292363

(What an address!) Somehow I think the censored version is more pornographic than the original …

I still think it’s interesting to know where they draw the line. When I click on your link, I can only see the picture, when I click on my link, I can also read some additional information, like "This image was edited in compliance with Photobucket's policy." Would a painting like that pass the rules of AdSense? What if a prog band decided to use this painting, or a similar one, for a cover?

This thread isn’t only about the consequences for PA, it’s just as much about the stupidity and danger of this kind of censorship – and how powerless we feel when we are confronted with the most international language of all: money. And I believe Heinrich Heine was right when he said that " […] dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen."

If there's one that should had been censored is the awful Virgin Killer by Scorpions

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 13 2013 at 14:15

I thought it was a drawing? Since I only saw the "censored" version of this cover, featuring the musicians themselves, I'm not sure about the nature of the original cover. 

Moogtron III wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: If there's one that should had been censored is the awful Virgin Killer by Scorpions For God's sake, the kid had 10 years when photographed That's child pornography IMHO Iván I agree, BTW this is the only one of the album covers discussed in this thread where I think it's pornographic.

lazland wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: If there's one that should had been censores is the awfgul Virgin Killer by Scorpions For God's sake, the kid had 10 years when photographed That's child pornography IMHO Iván Out of sheer curiosity, I just went on Google search to remind myself of this album cover. It did, of course, come up in all its "glorious" detail. So, to Ivan's opinion (which he makes well and is perfectly entitled to).  Is this child pornography? IMO no. It is certainly tasteless, and probably designed to be provocative deliberately. Would I ban it, though? No. Once you start down that road, it is the road to total state or corporate censorship, I.e. The road to ruin. Led Zep's Houses Of The Holy, anyone?

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 13 2013 at 15:14

Dean wrote: No, this thread is specifically about the censorship on the PA and how we deal with it.   All "what if" games are silly. We don't know the answer - no one does, asking those quesions is pointless. As are any other questions about whether this cover or that cover will be censored - I say again "We don't know".   Liking this to the Nazi's burning books is specious and is out of all proportion with what is happening here. If you want to see the uncensored version of any album cover you can just by looking on Amazon or reaching out to pick up the real album from your album collection. Censoring an electronic reproduction of the original image does not change the original image - my copy of Felona And Sorona that sits in my album collection has remained uncensored for 40 years - no amount of pixelising of internet images is going to change that.     If you can find a way of sponsoring the PA so we don't have to use Google AdSense we will happily listen to whatever you suggest because the only way to stand up to mega-buck corporations like Google is by refusing to use them, but to do that we need an alternative source of guaranteed regular income.

Finnforest is my new favourite Collab, although I must add that Tzirmay's censored version as mentioned above looks even more kinky, before was more PG truth be told plus the Roxy girl on the right now censored looks way too hairy and that is so dunno 60's? Anyway I deleted a picture I posted of a none real person painted bum/ on hello introducing myself forum which although not real it's still a backside thus seemed fair to remove it    PA is not to blame but it sure is fun to vent our disbelief about google on here tho' I laughed so much reading the above posts, especially concerning Ivan and Lazland lolol too funny hahaha!!!

Edited by Kati - October 15 2013 at 04:25