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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 01:10
Originally posted by dennismoore dennismoore wrote:

Originally posted by Rush77 Rush77 wrote:

Hey everybody so i was lookin at the site and noticed that ELP is rated pretty low and i was wondering y so im gonna ask everyone who reads this their opinion on this band. Personally i find them to be utterly amazing and one of my fav bands of all time but thats just my opinion plz tell me wat u think about them 
 
As far as ELP being rated low, I don't wish to come across as trite but a reality check provides:
 
A. Ratings are for a**holes(just like broken heartsWink)
B. The masses are asses(not my quote)
 
 
ELP set the standard for musicianship for actually "knowing how to play" an instrument.
 
The 2nd concert I ever saw was ELP with a full orchestra in New York in 1977.  My life has never been
the same.  All I can say is:
 
Brain Salad Surgery & Trilogy 5.1 remixes are coming out soon. What Lucky Men we are!
 
God Bless Emerson, Lake & Palmer! Clap   Clap   Clap

I can't wait for those remixes especially BSS which has been ballsed up so many times its untrue. The deluxe edition was a massive let down which is a shame as the deluxe editions of Pictures and WBMFTTSTNE are excellent and well worth having. BSS remains my favourite album but I would like to be able to listen to it without it hurting my earsWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 01:20
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

It seems they ran out of ideas as a group after Works Vol. 1. Works 2 is obviously a hastily compiled contractual obligation, and Love Beach is entirely the wrong direction. By then, they were ready for separate new horizons personally as well (a nice way of saying they couldn't get along anymore): film soundtracks for Keith, solo career for Lake, and PM and later Asia for Palmer.

Works 2 isn't a contractual obligation and technically neither was LB, but it was kind of forced on them at a time when they needed to haave a break
 
That may be but they are still very mediocre music to come from such talented musicians.

Works 2 should have been a bonus CD for Works Volume One which is actually what happened when it was reissued in its 'deluxe edition'.

Its has some great tracks and in fact nothing on it could be called 'mediocre' but the problem was that they more or less included everything they had left lying around that was recorded over 4 years. Some of the tracks were from the BSS sessions and some were from Works sessions and some were just solo tracks. As a fan I want it and that's why it was released.

Love Beach is a another thing altogether. I still believe they were only 3-4  tracks short of a decent album. It could have done with better production as well. It needed more work to get in shipshape but at the time they were (as Snow Dog mentions) desperately needing a break. The Works tour was a massive undertaking and they needed more time. They could have waited until teh storm of punk and new wave had finally blown over and then maybe recorded again perhaps in 1980. Hindsight is a great thing of course!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 01:27
Originally posted by Rando Rando wrote:

Originally posted by Rush77 Rush77 wrote:

Hey everybody so i was lookin at the site and noticed that ELP is rated pretty low and i was wondering y so im gonna ask everyone who reads this their opinion on this band. Personally i find them to be utterly amazing and one of my fav bands of all time but thats just my opinion plz tell me wat u think about them 


I always felt they were three unique and incredibly talented individuals trying to be a band or some type of musical trio. I never felt them as a cohesive unit. I mean, I love all the music and the albums up to Brain Salad Surgery. I was expecting Keith Emerson's next musical interpretation was going to be Stravinsky's The Rite Of Spring, I knew Greg Lake would include a beautiful acoustic song, and Carl Palmer could blast any drummer out of their kit!
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Fair comment. ELP however could play incredibly tight when they needed to. Aquartarkus (live) shows just what they could do when all three were on the same page. 

Interesting you mention Stravinsky as Carl Palmer named him as one of his favourites! Despite that they never went there. Would have been interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 17:13
richardh said:
Works 2 should have been a bonus CD for Works Volume One which is actually what happened when it was reissued in its 'deluxe edition'.
Its has some great tracks and in fact nothing on it could be called 'mediocre'...
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I guess that's why it received a 2.32 rating here at PA.....for collectors and fans only.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2013 at 18:38
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Brain Salad Surgery & Trilogy 5.1 remixes are coming out soon. What Lucky Men we are!
 
God Bless Emerson, Lake & Palmer! Clap   Clap   Clap

I can't wait for those remixes especially BSS which has been ballsed up so many times its untrue. The deluxe edition was a massive let down which is a shame as the deluxe editions of Pictures and WBMFTTSTNE are excellent and well worth having. BSS remains my favourite album but I would like to be able to listen to it without it hurting my earsWink
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Have you heard the DVD-Audio 5.1 release of BSS  about 8 years ago?  I think it is amazing.
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