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Joined: March 23 2013
Location: Minnesota
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Points: 2038
Posted: May 27 2013 at 19:38
It took me years to fully appreciate Spirit of Eden. I was a big fan of
their previous albums, especially Colour of Spring, and then came this
abstract expressionistic thing that I wasn't sure how to take. I knew
there was something there but it wasn't getting through to me right
away. I forced myself to listen to it for a while. Then Laughing Stock
came out and it was more of the same, so obviously there was no going
back. These albums had no precedent to provide a frame of reference. When
the appreciation finally hit me was one day when I had it turned way up
and the transition from minimal ambience to grinding metal came on at
the end of "Desire" and it sent the shivers up my spine, and the creepy crawlies down my lager and lime.
Joined: December 04 2011
Location: Madison WI
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Posted: May 27 2013 at 20:45
warrplayer wrote:
Don't forget the offshoot project O'Rang. Their only album 'Herd of Instinct'. Which is where the band HOI got their name.
Oh, snap! I'd never heard of O'Rang, but on first listen... WOW! I'm immediately far more in love with this than with Talk Talk. What a shame the album appears to be rare and out-of-print.
Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
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Points: 20631
Posted: May 27 2013 at 21:00
stegor wrote:
It took me years to fully appreciate Spirit of Eden. I was a big fan of
their previous albums, especially Colour of Spring, and then came this
abstract expressionistic thing that I wasn't sure how to take. I knew
there was something there but it wasn't getting through to me right
away. I forced myself to listen to it for a while. Then Laughing Stock
came out and it was more of the same, so obviously there was no going
back. These albums had no precedent to provide a frame of reference. When
the appreciation finally hit me was one day when I had it turned way up
and the transition from minimal ambience to grinding metal came on at
the end of "Desire" and it sent the shivers up my spine, and the creepy crawlies down my lager and lime.
I felt the same way............took me awhile to 'get into it'.
Hollis was into heroin for awhile and I wonder if that affected the more quiet / slower musical direction.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Joined: March 23 2013
Location: Minnesota
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Posted: May 27 2013 at 22:08
I've read that it was Mark Hollis' brother, who died from a heroin overdose, that is the subject of the heroin references rather than Mark himself. There is definitely something tortured in the vocals on the last 2 albums. Probably the most emotional vocals I've ever heard.
Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
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Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:11
stegor wrote:
I've read that it was Mark Hollis' brother, who died from a heroin overdose, that is the subject of the heroin references rather than Mark himself. There is definitely something tortured in the vocals on the last 2 albums. Probably the most emotional vocals I've ever heard.
It was implied in several articles back then that I read in some rock mags but it was unclear and it probably related to his brother.
I've never heard his solo lp....while I like some of the material on the last 2 Talk Talk lp's at times they seem really slow to me.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
I've read that it was Mark Hollis' brother, who died from a heroin overdose, that is the subject of the heroin references rather than Mark himself. There is definitely something tortured in the vocals on the last 2 albums. Probably the most emotional vocals I've ever heard.
It was implied in several articles back then that I read in some rock mags but it was unclear and it probably related to his brother.
I've never heard his solo lp....while I like some of the material on the last 2 Talk Talk lp's at times they seem really slow to me.
I Believe In You is about heroin OD, I guess his brother's. It's quite prevalent in the lyrics, check it out.
Joined: April 08 2006
Location: Bay Area
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 08:34
I'm so glad TALK TALK was finally given notice here. To me they were one of the best bands of the 80's, but I always felt were overshadowed at the time by the more poppy commercial bands like DURAN DURAN, Culture Club, etc. It didn't matter I always felt these guys were in a special league of their own, and on a much different musical plain and path as evidenced with each album.
Mark Hollis' voice was so powerful & passionate but always with a tinge of melancholy, (despair?) I don't know what was transpiring within the band's psyche to evolve musically as they did. Spirit of Eden is timeless and beautiful, need I say more."The Party's Over" is still one of my favorite earlier songs with its synth layered intro, I still feel "My Foolish Friend," "Such A Shame," "It's My Life," and "Living In Another World," are some of their most powerful (and meaningful) music.
I will never forgive NO DOUBT for their horrible & insulting cover of "It's My Life!"
- Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats -
Joined: March 23 2013
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Posted: June 01 2013 at 23:28
Talk Talk was often compared to some of those more popular bands like Duran Duran, but I never felt like they were overshadowed by them. They were in a different category, along with Japan. The only thing they had in common with bands like Culture Club was the decade.
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 17:26
Rando wrote:
I still feel "My Foolish Friend," "Such A Shame," "It's My Life," and "Living In Another World," are some of their most powerful (and meaningful) music.
Good shout on all those tracks.
When they played Living In Another World when I saw them in London in 1986, it was one of the best live moments I have ever experienced
In fact, here it is (you might even hear me whistling ):
Listen to the applause at the end - it was long, emotional and heart-felt.
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 19:24
^ What a voice. Such a shame he hung it up. In an interview in Mojo, referring to his one-note solo on After the Flood with the malfunctioning instrument the name of which escapes me at the mome, "After one note there are no notes."
Joined: April 08 2006
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 00:44
Nov wrote:
Rando wrote:
I still feel "My Foolish Friend," "Such A Shame," "It's My Life," and "Living In Another World," are some of their most powerful (and meaningful) music.
Good shout on all those tracks.
When they played Living In Another World when I saw them in London in 1986, it was one of the best live moments I have ever experienced
In fact, here it is (you might even hear me whistling ):
Listen to the applause at the end - it was long, emotional and heart-felt.
Thank You! For the 'Live in London' upload! I wish I had been there. Living in Another World is definitely one of their best songs with a very powerul chorus. Mark Hollis' voice is so evoking, powerful and yes, emotional. A great performance to a great song and show it must have been. I wish they had released a live album.
Yes, I listened to the much deserved applause, did they do an encore? I'm not sure if they toured over here to California. If they did I'm so sorry I missed them.
Although, I'm still trying to hear your whistling!
- Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats -
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 04:13
Rando wrote:
Thank You! For the 'Live in London' upload!
My pleasure
I wish I had been there. Living in Another World is definitely one of their best songs with a very powerul chorus. Mark Hollis' voice is so evoking, powerful and yes, emotional. A great performance to a great song and show it must have been. I wish they had released a live album.
Joined: June 09 2004
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 04:57
King Only wrote:
Ady Cardiac wrote:
does anyone know where i can listen to the first album by "orang" on the internet?.....it was the band formed by the other two members when mark hollis split talk talk.
Awesome material, I never knew this side project existed- thanks
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Posted: June 06 2013 at 03:49
the only sane man wrote:
Brilliant band, and good to see so many people on here agreeing.
However, when they supported Genesis at Milton Keynes bowl in 82, if my memory serves me correctly, they went down like a lead balloon!
Yes indeed.
I was there and was really enjoying them until they got bottled off by the knuckle-heads.
They just shouldn't have been on the bill to be honest because at the time they were kind of considered (by Joe Public) to be Duran Duran wannabes so not quite the right image to present to early Genesis fans
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