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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2013 at 08:38
Glad to hear it!  It was probably the right thing to do.  It took so long for it to come out the first time, it'll probably take a long time to come out again.  And I'm sure it's frustrating having a gaping hole in your collection like that.
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It is, especially one that came out in Frank's lifetime. It won't have the numbered spine (#13) like the rest of the reissues have (my FZ collection looks so organized now), but it will be nice to finally listen to the album. I'm now hoping the reissue doesn't come out any time soon, so I don't regret buying the original CD copy, unless the sound is a lot different.
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200 Motels probably has the worst sound quality of any official Zappa release, just by virtue of the way it was recorded - pretty much live in the film studio as it happened.  "Bad sound quality" for Zappa is still pretty good though, and shouldn't affect your enjoyment too much.  It's probably something that won't ever be improved upon no matter how many times they remaster it.
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I remember of the sound of the vinyl. Not so bad. I think i'm gonna wait for the next edition. So much material to explore ...  
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I'd rather get this than 200 Motels reissue:
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Is there a release date on DMT yet or is it still 'coming down the pipe'?
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Originally posted by gordonatorgordy gordonatorgordy wrote:

Can anyone recommend any more "Serious" Frank Zappa compositions Such as "Watermelon in Easter Hay" and Inca Roads etc.?

I'm a bit late, but let me add a few favorites of mine to the list:
  • Peaches en Regalia (Hot Rats)
  • Uncle Meat/The Dog Breath Variations/A Pound for a Brown on the Bus (Uncle Meat)
  • King Kong (Uncle Meat, but I prefer the version on Ahead of Their Time)
  • Holiday in Berlin/Aybe Sea/The Little House I Used to Live In (pretty much 75% of Burnt Weeny Sandwich)
  • Transylvania Boogie/Twenty Small Cigars/Chunga's Revenge (Chunga's Revenge)
  • Big Swifty (Waka/Jawaka)
  • Eat That Question/Blessed Relief (The Grand Wazoo)
  • Apostrophe (Apostrophe)
  • Echidna's Arf/Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? (Roxy & Elsewhere)
  • Florentine Pogen/Andy (One Size Fits All)
  • Black Napkins/Zoot Allures (Zoot Allures)
  • The Black Page (Zappa in New York)
  • Revised Music for Guitar and Low-Budget Orchestra/RDNZL (Studio Tan)
  • Filthy Habits/Regyptian Strut/Sleep Dirt/The Ocean Is the Ultimate Solution (Sleep Dirt)
  • Drowning Witch/Envelopes (Drowning Witch)
  • Moggio (The Man from Utopia)
  • Sinister Footwear II (Them or Us)
  • Alien Orifice/What's New in Baltimore? (FZ Meets the Mothers of Prevention)
  • And of course the medley that makes up the last five tracks of Ahead of Their Time

Good "serious" albums: Hot Rats, Uncle Meat, Burnt Weeny Sandwich, The Grand Wazoo, Roxy & Elsewhere, One Size Fits All, Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt, Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar, YCDTOSA2, Make a Jazz Noise Here (even though I'm personally not a fan of that one, people really seem to like it)

Wow, I guess that was more than "a few". Oh well, Zappa made a lot of music.
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Speaking of serious works, I just got in the mail:

Civilization Phaze III
Everything Is Healing Nicely
FZ:OZ

Party

Those first 2 are serious music, especially CPIII.
I'm so excited to listen to these albums, as they generally contain much music I'm not very familiar with. I'm also going to go back to albums I've bought recently that haven't received enough plays since I got them.
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  • Peaches en Regalia (Hot Rats)
  • Uncle Meat/The Dog Breath Variations/A Pound for a Brown on the Bus (Uncle Meat)
  • King Kong (Uncle Meat, but I prefer the version on Ahead of Their Time)
  • Holiday in Berlin/Aybe Sea/The Little House I Used to Live In (pretty much 75% of Burnt Weeny Sandwich)
  • Transylvania Boogie/Twenty Small Cigars/Chunga's Revenge (Chunga's Revenge)
  • Big Swifty (Waka/Jawaka)
  • Eat That Question/Blessed Relief (The Grand Wazoo)
  • Apostrophe (Apostrophe)
  • Echidna's Arf/Don't You Ever Wash That Thing? (Roxy & Elsewhere)
  • Florentine Pogen/Andy (One Size Fits All)
  • Black Napkins/Zoot Allures (Zoot Allures)
  • The Black Page (Zappa in New York)
  • Revised Music for Guitar and Low-Budget Orchestra/RDNZL (Studio Tan)
  • Filthy Habits/Regyptian Strut/Sleep Dirt/The Ocean Is the Ultimate Solution (Sleep Dirt)
  • Drowning Witch/Envelopes (Drowning Witch)
  • Moggio (The Man from Utopia)
  • Sinister Footwear II (Them or Us)
  • Alien Orifice/What's New in Baltimore? (FZ Meets the Mothers of Prevention)
  • And of course the medley that makes up the last five tracks of Ahead of Their Time

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    Points: 4596     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2013 at 11:45
    Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

    Speaking of serious works, I just got in the mail:

    Civilization Phaze III
    Everything Is Healing Nicely
    FZ:OZ

    Party

    Those first 2 are serious music, especially CPIII.
    I'm so excited to listen to these albums, as they generally contain much music I'm not very familiar with. I'm also going to go back to albums I've bought recently that haven't received enough plays since I got them.
    Congrats...haven't heard OZ but the first two are serious music indeed and should keep you busy for quite some time Clap  
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    Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

    Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

    Speaking of serious works, I just got in the mail:

    Civilization Phaze III
    Everything Is Healing Nicely
    FZ:OZ

    Party

    Those first 2 are serious music, especially CPIII.
    I'm so excited to listen to these albums, as they generally contain much music I'm not very familiar with. I'm also going to go back to albums I've bought recently that haven't received enough plays since I got them.
    Congrats...haven't heard OZ but the first two are serious music indeed and should keep you busy for quite some time Clap  


    I listened to FZ:OZ earlier, and it was quite refreshing to hear a Zappa band in such a stripped down environment. Not to mention the sound is excellent for what it is, the drums and bass cut right through

    I can't say when I'll get around to listening to CPIII and EIHN, as I have a lot of CDs to get through (Zappa and other), so it may be a while before I sit down with them, but who knows... I wanted to mention how good the packaging for those 2 albums are, probably the most gorgeous packaging/artwork of all the Zappa albums.
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    Points: 7251     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2013 at 00:04
    This one sounds great. What is it exactly ?
    Chalk Pie (unreleased double LP 1981)
     
     
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    Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

    This one sounds great. What is it exactly ?
    Chalk Pie (unreleased double LP 1981)
     
     


    Not sure, but I'm downloading now from Zappateers.
    Lots of unreleased stuff on there (why hasn't the ZFT released it yet???)

    Here's some info on Chalk Pie
    http://www.lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/weirdo/unreleased.html#chalkpie
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    Points: 7251     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2013 at 10:32
    Big smile Thanks ! There are more live versions and out-takes of Zappa's work than ways of cooking food.
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    Points: 10964     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2013 at 14:41
    Cucamonga is a great album to put on during a cold, rainy, overcast day. Might be the heavy blues/50s doo-wop sound, makes me think of that time, like shore towns or middle class suburbs with everyone's clothes hanging out to dry.
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    Points: 10964     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2013 at 14:43
    Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

    Big smile Thanks ! There are more live versions and out-takes of Zappa's work than ways of cooking food.


    Every time I think I'm almost done collecting all his albums, I keep finding unreleased/alternate stuff to check out.

    Check out this alternate version of You Are What You Is:
    http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCnnbPvQeSk
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    How is Chalk Pie? I think I've heard some or all of it on a bootleg.
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    Points: 26138     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2013 at 15:27
    Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

    Cucamonga is a great album to put on during a cold, rainy, overcast day. Might be the heavy blues/50s doo-wop sound, makes me think of that time, like shore towns or middle class suburbs with everyone's clothes hanging out to dry.
    I need to listen to that again, it's been ages. I agree, very cool listen for nostalgic moods, which I get a lot of lately.
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    Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

    How is Chalk Pie? I think I've heard some or all of it on a bootleg.


    It's pretty fun. The sound and mix is different for all the songs that have been released already, and in some cases, alternate/extended solos, I mean, What's New In Baltimore is double the length of the FZMTMOP version. A couple of tracks are completely different versions, and there's at least 3 tunes that have never been released before.

    You get all that, plus most of the tracks segue into each other, really giving it its own identity. It kinda sounds like the best 80s album (pre-88) that never existed; so it's definitely a worthwhile album to check out.
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