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HolyMoly
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 13:50 | ||
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 19:10 | ||
In all respect - if The Beatles are considered a Proto-Prog band, then surely The Doors are more than worthy. 'Proto' is the keyword. Prog, but not 'Prog'.
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Dean
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 19:21 | ||
I don't think anyone's questioning their worthiness for Proto Prog.
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What?
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The T
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 19:35 | ||
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 00:02 | ||
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 10:32 | ||
I don't get it either
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moshkito
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 11:57 | ||
Agreed. I think the whole thing was geared more towards what Jim came up with than anything else ... and the problem was that it was a oen way road to no one knows where ... but the music left behind is astounding ... and yeah ... the feelings, the moods and the "visualness" of the words, are what sticks the most in my mind. Most of the "progressive" bands are nowhere near that at all. I kinda think that in the West Coast in America, the desire to be more musically adventurous just was not there ... the "trip" was always more interesting and fun than anything else, and most bands in SF and LA displayed that and few of them went out of that element to be able to be considered ... "progressive". But the influence ... is all over the place and then some, which makes it hard to not mention and include sometimes!
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rdtprog
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 14:48 | ||
does anyband have to be prog to be good?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 16:13 | ||
yes
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 17:09 | ||
I agree
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NotAProghead
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 17:38 | ||
^ I agree with most Dean's points, though in my opinion The Doors never were true Psychedelic or Acid Rock band.
Edited by NotAProghead - May 18 2013 at 17:39 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 19:26 | ||
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Dean
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 19:37 | ||
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What?
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 19:44 | ||
Oh yes, and the Floyd ARE PROG - no questions.
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smartpatrol
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Posted: May 18 2013 at 22:34 | ||
Progressive? Yes. Prog? No.
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AreYouHuman
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Posted: May 19 2013 at 00:36 | ||
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tamijo
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Posted: May 19 2013 at 03:24 | ||
Maby so, but they sure did pop some trips to make it happen. |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 19 2013 at 03:57 | ||
no.
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AreYouHuman
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Posted: May 19 2013 at 22:17 | ||
To return to the original questions: yes, they were beyond a doubt progressive, and I'll let it go at that without getting into all the progressive/prog hair-splitting.
Among their most progressive songs, IMO: Break on Through Strange Days The End The Crystal Ship The Unknown Soldier Not to Touch the Earth Spanish Caravan The Soft Parade Light My Fire |
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Svetonio
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Posted: May 19 2013 at 23:40 | ||
I agree. The Doors weren't for example Symphonic rock or Canterbury rock, but they were progressive rock band. Also, I agree that the term 'prog' doesn't mean anymore a short of progressive rock only. Maybe it's not fair but that's the reality. At present day, Prog is a genre with a number of 'retro' bands who are playing recycled music of '70s symphonic rock and we call them Symphonic Prog and / or Neo Prog because those bands are able to recycle 70s symphonic rock clishes more or less gracefuly, but there's no way to recycle an essential progressive band from '60s - The Doors. EDIT: I agree with NotAProgHead that The Doors weren't Psychedelic and / or Acid Rock band. Edited by Svetonio - May 20 2013 at 01:48 |
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