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Joined: February 01 2011
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Posted: May 16 2013 at 23:04
Svetonio wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Dean wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
His proggy phase is like a cabaret.
I don't like a cabaret music, so I prefer his greatest hits - they are much better than that, aren't they?
Fortunately, it's not about what you like.
(...) It's rather amusing that we are on a purportedly progressive site and you're touting greatest hits packages.
Actually, we are on PA Proto Prog / Prog Related forum. As Dean pointed out - Prog Related IS NOT PROG. So, I did that freely to present with some YouTube samples that my claim that Mr Bowie's timeless pop hits are much better because they're stronger expression than those cabaret-like song(s) you posted above (with a question adressed on me - 'is this pop', in the spirit of this poll I supposed) from his proggy atempts what was at the time also very fashionable - nothing less fashionable and mainstreamy than this (...)
Conversely, I am completely disinterested in songs like "China Girl", even if Stevie Ray Vaughan played guitar on the album, and "Fame" was tedious even with John Lennon singing background. I never bought Bowie albums for "pop hits", and I'm quite sure most of the folks here more than likely share the same general view. For me, it was Bowie iconoclastic nature, not the most palatable pieces available for mass consumption.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Joined: September 20 2010
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:01
^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA' admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this high priest of pop music was mimicking that progressive rock enough for PA' Crossover section. So, when you're dreaming about your fav Mr Bowie's song as a progressive rock song, you would never forget what Dean pointed out:
Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:17
Svetonio wrote:
^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this fashionable pop artist was produced progressive rock enough for Crossover section. You would never forget what Dean pointed out: Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.
Your grasp of this concept appears to be limited and/or somewhat selective.
Joined: September 20 2010
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:22
Dean wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
^^ Ok, that was pretty enough for PA admins to add him as prog related act as well, but it doesn't mean that this fashionable pop artist was produced progressive rock enough for Crossover section. You would never forget what Dean pointed out: Prog RELATED IS NOT PROG.
Your grasp of this concept appears to be limited and/or somewhat selective.
Joined: September 20 2010
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Posted: May 17 2013 at 01:44
Dean wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
I edited my previous post.
*shrug* makes no difference.
Of course not. I just edited.
Anyway, I can see very clear that the problem with "prog related" section is the problem of perception. Too many perceived "prog related" as a genre, although that section wasn't initialy conceived as such.
He has too many aficionados to be considered anything less than pivotal to developments well beyond his ken. Black Sabbath are in the same hopelessly adrift love boat.
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 20:48
Dean wrote:
jude111 wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
After a month and a half it's 22 to 12 that he's not prog.
And as we know, the minority's usually right
Eh?
Okay, it's not enough to say the minority's usually right. (Clearly that's not the case.) Rather, I'll just say the majority's usually, for want of a better word, 'wrong'. Or, 'off'.
Or to quote Mark Twain: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."
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