Is Steven Wilson making Prog music?

 

Prog Crossover, doesn't sound that bad ... but the term alone makes me not want to hear it ... in fact, I would think that "Prog-Related" would be a much better term than the Crossover" for most of those titles.

 

But we're missing the following: "Prog Dean" ... "Prog Snowed" ... "Prog Mosh" ... "Prog Nothing" ... "Prog By the Book" ... "Prog by Imagination"  ...  and a few others! ... can't forget ... "Prog by the Press" ... so we can have even more fun talking about it!

 

As an Admin of this site I take every criticism of the site and of the collaborators who give their free time to maintain the database very seriously. If you offend them you offend me.

 

For your information I added Steven Wilson to this site in my former capacity of Crossover Team leader after he was voted for inclusion by the rest of the team, so  I will take personally any question of Wilson's Prog credentials when coupled with your previous insinuation that Special Collaborators make room for their favourite artists.

 

sorcerer kermes wrote: in fact im not even talking to you!!

I couldn't careless who you think you are talking to, this is a discussion forum not a chat-line.

 

And at this moment in time I am specifically talking to you as an Admin of this site. If you have criticisms about how things are done around here then be sure you understand exactly how they are done first.

 

I am not upset about anything, however I am disappointed by some of your comments, I have now spoken to you on two occasions for being rude and offensive.

 

You are free to feel that Wilson is not making Progressive Music (though your arguments so far and your review of Raven have failed to demonstrate that). You are also free to criticise people here, but be prepared for people to defend themselves when you make unfounded accusations and snide insinuations about how we add artists.

 

So, cut the back-chat and play nice, or you can leave.

In short, you think prog archives attempts to project Wilson as a prog artist when he is not because this site is ridden with Wilson fanatics?  So how about other sources?

Here, popmatters thinks Raven That Refused to Sing is prog.

So does Ultimate Guitar:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/steven_wilson/the_raven_that_refused_to_sing_and_other_stories/index.html

Sputnik music:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/55264/Steven-Wilson-The-Raven-that-Refused-to-Sing/

Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/feb/21/steven-wilson-raven-refused-review

Allmusic:

http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-raven-that-refused-to-sing-and-other-stories-mw0002475916


I don't think any further sources need to be cited.   

The point is, this is a widely held opinion, not Collaborator-prog as you mischievously insinuate here.   Actually, except viewed through your prism (which is evidently biased by his previous fondness for metal and alt rock), it should be pretty obvious that this album and the previous Wilson solo effort Grace for Drowning are prog rock.  They may or may not be very progressive in terms of innovation, but the music is certainly prog rock.  If you still wish to hold a different opinion, you may well do so as it is your right but you are not entitled to cry that heresy has been committed merely because the rest of the world doesn't share your opinion.  Prove it, prove that it is heresy to call Raven That Refused to Sing prog, don't just idly opine.  Everybody has opinions, can  you substantiate yours instead of merely ranting?