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Posted: March 12 2013 at 09:12
Hi,
I'm starting to think that Steven is just another kid that wants to play music, and he doesn't care what it is, and neither do I. It's just what he wants to play and do.
I, personally, couldn't careless, if anyone/someone made progressive, prog or bull-shishkabob music! Rap might be good, too!
I do think that he is spending too much time working everyone else's stuff, and he should concentrate more on his own, to make it better and more valuable. As such, he is stretching himself too far, and losing the touch with his own group and work! It might be "better" in terms of production and matering, but the music far inferior to anything out there that he has done before. Feels like the Rolling Stones, it's the best studio because they have plenty of money to go around, not because it is the best music or place to do it! Who cares about the music anyway?
Edited by moshkito - March 12 2013 at 09:31
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Posted: March 09 2013 at 16:29
sorcerer kermes wrote:
my measures are important to myself den! because of that i think talking to you is useless and just taking my energy without having anything in it so i dont have any reason to discuss any more with YOU ( i mean JUST YOU of course not anyone else here i enjoy listening to others opinions when they speak reasonably but i have the right not to have conversation with one particular person )
Well, you just carry on not having a conversation with me then. I do admire your rudenss under pressure.
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Posted: March 09 2013 at 16:25
my measures are important to myself den! because of that i think talking to you is useless and just taking my energy without having anything in it so i dont have any reason to discuss any more with YOU ( i mean JUST YOU of course not anyone else here i enjoy listening to others opinions when they speak reasonably but i have the right not to have conversation with one particular person )
Edited by sorcerer kermes - March 09 2013 at 16:27
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Posted: March 09 2013 at 15:11
sorcerer kermes wrote:
there`s always differences in opinions dear dean, and you were right at some points but i felt that your approach to this discussion somehow was not very friendly and i just couldn`t discuss with you, anyway i had no bad intentions.
Your measures of friendliness are of no concern to me, if you do not wish to discuss then don't raise questions, each has an equal say in these discussion threads and an equal right to express their opinion.
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Posted: March 09 2013 at 13:48
^ nice to see a bijelo dugme avatar. Regarding the thread, I don't like Porcupine Tree and I don't like Steve Wilson's vocals. I also don't understand all the fuss around Porcupine Tree.
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Posted: March 09 2013 at 13:34
Dean wrote:
sorcerer kermes wrote:
maybe if we were writing in farsi it was much easier for me but i bet you dont know even one word in farsi and i have to write in your language , so maybe sometimes i misunderstand but i`ll try to catch up, in this particular point i give you assurance that i totally understood you... "Is everything Genesis did after The There Were Three 100% Prog?" i think we all know Genesis before and after Gabriel are two different subjects and i find you easy to understand . now i`ve got the point that you think Wilson is doing Prog so why bothering keep on saying it? i just asked a question and you answered, thanks.
I wasn't having a go at your understanding of a second language, your use of which is very good and shows an excellent level of comprehension, but your understanding of the points being made, which is an entirely different thing, people make errors in understanding the written word even in their first language.
This is a discussion forum not a question and answer session, if you cannot handle discussion then don't raise questions.
As Argonaut pointed out many English words are of Iranian origin, such as scarlet, orange, lemon and peach, as well as sandal, taffeta, seersucker, caravan, balcony, bazaar and magic. It's a wonderful poetic language and we are grateful for enrichment it has provided our hybrid language.
there`s always differences in opinions dear dean, and you were right at
some points but i felt that your approach to this discussion somehow
was not very friendly and i just couldn`t discuss with you, anyway i had
no bad intentions.
thanks for the good things you said about Iran , you may know that
nowruz celebration is near and here`s a present for you hope you like
it:
Edited by sorcerer kermes - March 09 2013 at 13:42
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Posted: March 09 2013 at 12:04
sorcerer kermes wrote:
maybe if we were writing in farsi it was much easier for me but i bet you dont know even one word in farsi and i have to write in your language , so maybe sometimes i misunderstand but i`ll try to catch up, in this particular point i give you assurance that i totally understood you... "Is everything Genesis did after The There Were Three 100% Prog?" i think we all know Genesis before and after Gabriel are two different subjects and i find you easy to understand . now i`ve got the point that you think Wilson is doing Prog so why bothering keep on saying it? i just asked a question and you answered, thanks.
I wasn't having a go at your understanding of a second language, your use of which is very good and shows an excellent level of comprehension, but your understanding of the points being made, which is an entirely different thing, people make errors in understanding the written word even in their first language.
This is a discussion forum not a question and answer session, if you cannot handle discussion then don't raise questions.
As Argonaut pointed out many English words are of Iranian origin, such as scarlet, orange, lemon and peach, as well as sandal, taffeta, seersucker, caravan, balcony, bazaar and magic. It's a wonderful poetic language and we are grateful for enrichment it has provided our hybrid language.
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