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Points: 6253 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2013 at 00:40
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Honestly there's one thing as living in Africa while having to put up with other people's music, Rush is prog yes however I can't understand the number of people who voted Rush instead of the Beatles above Stern Smile this to me makes no sense seriously! Stern Smile No!!!

You probably didn't read the poll question well and hence couldn't understand.  They simply voted for the band they prefer.  One doesn't HAVE to prefer the more important band only. I take LZ to be a far more significant band than Alice in Chains but I certainly prefer the latter, eight days a week.
 
rogerthat hello you Smile
Good point above and yes I misundertood the question, tastes differ however I still can't understand how one can compare nevermind vote other than Beatles (hihihihi Wink me being ignorant here but speaking in all honesty Tongue)
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Points: 6253 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2013 at 23:39
Maybe we should all just take Paul McCartney’s advice who when ques­tioned about its rel­e­vance has been known to have com­mented, “It’s a great dou­ble album, it sold, it’s the bloody Bea­t­les White Album, shut up!”ApproveHug LOL
“The Bea­t­les” or as it’s more com­money known the ‘White Album”, is con­sid­ered by many, includ­ing John Lennon him­self, as the album that saw the Bea­t­les reach their peak as song­writ­ers.
 
This album was very diverse in terms of music genres, it stood the test of time, to date I continue to listen and enjoy the album. It might not be as innovative as Sgt. Pepper or Revolver however Helder Skelter was certainly progressive at the time considering that no band/musician ever had recorded anything even similar. Also some of the track titles are so silly and fun, this is prog too Big smileLOL 


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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

But IMHO nothing after SPLHCB has anything to do with Proto-Prog.


really? you don't think the White Album had any impact on progressive music?
I'm not sure but it if did then it  the "White Album" would be Prog-Related since the Prog Movement had already been started by bands like Procol Harum and The Moody Blues by that point.
 
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Rush. The Beatles are not a Prog band.
Hi Hacketfan Hug
I have to disagree with you. The beatles were the first in mixed time signatures, i.e. "She said" reaches 8/5. Their influences of psychedelic style inc. indian instrumentation also with sitar, etc, inc. electronica especially in "Tomorrow never Knows" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" was new thus not recorded by any other band at the time. Also "A day in life" is prog unless you can explain to me why it's not.
Even YES were very influenced by the Beatles, i.e. Jon Anderson said that YES were influenced by the beatles especially Sgt. Pepper and Magical Tour albums, that they have been a big influence on their music, especially early yes. YES even recorded a beatles cover called "Every Little thing" on their debut album.




 
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

But IMHO nothing after SPLHCB has anything to do with Proto-Prog.
really? you don't think the White Album had any impact on progressive music?
I doubt it (as much as I like the album).
I agree because I don't think there were any Proto-Prog Bands after  1967 in England or America. To me, Procol Harum Started Prog in England with their Self-Titled Debut.
And in America I think Prog started when The Mothers of Invention released Absolutely Free.
 


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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

But IMHO nothing after SPLHCB has anything to do with Proto-Prog.
really? you don't think the White Album had any impact on progressive music?
I doubt it (as much as I like the album).
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Points: 6253 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2013 at 22:05
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

But IMHO nothing after SPLHCB has anything to do with Proto-Prog.


really? you don't think the White Album had any impact on progressive music?
I'm not sure but it if did then it  the "White Album" would be Prog-Related since the Prog Movement had already been started by bands like Procol Harum and The Moody Blues by that point.
 
Hi Jonathan Hug
 
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Rush. The Beatles are not a Prog band.
Hi Hacketfan Hug
I have to disagree with you. The beatles were the first in mixed time signatures, i.e. "She said" reaches 8/5. Their influences of psychedelic style inc. indian instrumentation also with sitar, etc, inc. electronica especially in "Tomorrow never Knows" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" was new thus not recorded by any other band at the time. Also "A day in life" is prog unless you can explain to me why it's not.
Even YES were very influenced by the Beatles, i.e. Jon Anderson said that YES were influenced by the beatles especially Sgt. Pepper and Magical Tour albums, that they have been a big influence on their music, especially early yes. YES even recorded a beatles cover called "Every Little thing" on their debut album.

 
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

But IMHO nothing after SPLHCB has anything to do with Proto-Prog.


really? you don't think the White Album had any impact on progressive music?
I'm not sure but it if did then it  the "White Album" would be Prog-Related since the Prog Movement had already been started by bands like Procol Harum and The Moody Blues by that point.
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Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

But IMHO nothing after SPLHCB has anything to do with Proto-Prog.


really? you don't think the White Album had any impact on progressive music?
Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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^ I know what IMHO means. Argo was just poking fun of me ... r-r-r-r-r-r.
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Points: 201 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2013 at 16:42
IMHO means "In My Honest Opinion".
SPLHCB means "Sergent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".


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^ ... SPLHCB.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ I'm not very good with abbreviations. Could you please decipher it?

Which one, the IMHO thingy? = I May Humiliate Others


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^ I'm not very good with abbreviations. Could you please decipher it?
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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

The medley on Abbey Road is kind of like an epic :P
Maybe that might be Prog-Related like Maxwell's SIlver Hammer might be. (Just my opinion though)
But IMHO nothing after SPLHCB has anything to do with Proto-Prog.
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The medley on Abbey Road is kind of like an epic :P
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Love both Bands, But I'm going with Rush. The Beatles are cool but they never put out an epic like "2112".
"A Day in the Life" is one of the best Proto-Progs IMHO though. ( And one of the last major ones.)
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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2013 at 05:56
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Honestly there's one thing as living in Africa while having to put up with other people's music, Rush is prog yes however I can't understand the number of people who voted Rush instead of the Beatles above Stern Smile this to me makes no sense seriously! Stern Smile No!!!

You probably didn't read the poll question well and hence couldn't understand.  They simply voted for the band they prefer.  One doesn't HAVE to prefer the more important band only. I take LZ to be a far more significant band than Alice in Chains but I certainly prefer the latter, eight days a week.
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I don't hear much inflection on the words, varying the emphasis or stress, all of which adds up to the flavour.  Just singing one word quickly but holding another a bit more, for  example, these are very subtle but important aspects of rock/pop vocals because mostly they depend heavily on the lyrics.  Geddy sings the lines very neatly and nicely and that's it.  I think given the lyrics, the song has the potential to be more than just a breezy little upbeat and pleasant number.  


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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

 

But I note again the lack of flavour in his phrasing.   The meaning of the words doesn't come out as much as it potentially can, for me.

Well, on this one Geddy does a diligent job articulating the syllables in synch with the rhythm, and in tune with the progression of the musical tones. I suppose that's what you meant anyway by the "lack of flavour"?





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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Honestly this is insane!!!!! I can't get to grips how many votes Rush got in this pole while being compared to The Beatles!!!! Seriously!!! Arghhhhh!!!! This makes no sense really!!!
 
What can we do? It's a strange poll. It would be like Pink Floyd vs. Eloy...and I'd pick Eloy. Beso! LOL
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