Forum Home Forum Home > Other music related lounges > Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Rush vs The Beatles
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedRush vs The Beatles

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2021222324 30>
Poll Question: Who do you prefer ?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
182 [43.65%]
235 [56.35%]
This topic is closed, no new votes accepted

Author
Message
Dellinger View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: June 18 2009
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 12732
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 18:46
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:


Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:


Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

The Beatles were probably the most versatile, innovative and influential band of all time. Like him or not, Sir Paul is one of the most talented and prolific composers on this planet, period. Between Paul and John they also generated an impressive collection of outstanding lyrics.  Rush is an accomplished and much-beloved band with a long and dignified career, but frankly I don't think they are quite in the same category as The Fab Four.  

 
I agree with you Argonaut, the Beatles were groundbreaking and at the forefront of everything, I go even as far as saying that they might even have invented metal with Helter Skelter.
 
A hug to you, Hug


Not so sure about "Helter Skelter"... it may be a bit crazy, heavy even, but it doesn't sound so much "Heavy Metal" to me... however, "She's so Heavy", yeah, that one almost sounds like metal to me.

 
Awww listen and open your mind Wink Hug


Yeah, I love that song. And indeed it is heavy. But even though it's not so fast, those slow gloomy heavy guitars on "She's so Heavy" sound more metal to me, the ones on the "she's so heavy" parts of the song (of course the part of the song with the lyrics "I Want you" are not metal at all).
Back to Top
Sumdeus View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 23 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Status: Offline
Points: 831
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 18:49
yeah Helter Skelter may have been a new step in just the raw energy and speed in rock music and certainly heavy for it's time but I agree that it doesn't necessarily have the metal edge, rather i would put it closer to proto-punk like the stooges or something. 
Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
Back to Top
Dellinger View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: June 18 2009
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 12732
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 18:52
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Why would anyone make such a stupid poll??Angry These are two different bands



Better than putting one band against itself, isn't it?
Back to Top
Sumdeus View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 23 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
Status: Offline
Points: 831
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 18:56
I think progmetaller would actually enjoy a Rush vs. Rush poll :P
Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
Back to Top
ProgMetaller2112 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3145
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 20:08
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

I think progmetaller would actually enjoy a Rush vs. Rush poll :P


No, I would enjoy polls that make some sense, this one doesn't Rome
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



Back to Top
ProgMetaller2112 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3145
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 20:09
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

I think progmetaller would actually enjoy a Rush vs. Rush poll :P


what are u trying to say, Rome ??
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



Back to Top
HackettFan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 20 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Status: Offline
Points: 7951
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 20:16
Rush. The Beatles are not a Prog band.
Back to Top
Dellinger View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: June 18 2009
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 12732
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2013 at 14:49
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:


Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

I think progmetaller would actually enjoy a Rush vs. Rush poll :P

what are u trying to say, Rome ??


However, they are two different bands and anyone who has heard them can express an opinion as to which one he prefers. They don't have to be very similar in order for you to have a favourite.
Back to Top
Kati View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2013 at 20:38
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

yeah Helter Skelter may have been a new step in just the raw energy and speed in rock music and certainly heavy for it's time but I agree that it doesn't necessarily have the metal edge, rather i would put it closer to proto-punk like the stooges or something. 
 
Sumdeus, my perception of punk are peeps who don't even know how to play intruments, they sabotage (my ears hurt) and think it's good. Shocked I would certainly not call the Beatles punk nor any of their moozik tho' Unhappy
Hug
Back to Top
Kati View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2013 at 20:59
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Rush. The Beatles are not a Prog band.
 
Hi Hacketfan Hug
I have to disagree with you. The beatles were the first in mixed time signatures, i.e. "She said" reaches 8/5. Their influences of psychedelic style inc. indian instrumentation also with sitar, etc, inc. electronica especially in "Tomorrow never Knows" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" was new thus not recorded by any other band at the time. Also "A day in life" is prog unless you can explain to me why it's not.
Even YES were very influenced by the Beatles, i.e. Jon Anderson said that YES were influenced by the beatles especially Sgt. Pepper and Magical Tour albums, that they have been a big influence on their music, especially early yes. YES even recorded a beatles cover called "Every Little thing" on their debut album.  

 

Back to Top
Dayvenkirq View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 25 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 10970
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 01:18
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Rush. The Beatles are not a Prog band.
You are right. They are not a prog band. They are a proto-prog band. Smile
Back to Top
Dayvenkirq View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 25 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 10970
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 01:21
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

yeah Helter Skelter may have been a new step in just the raw energy and speed in rock music and certainly heavy for it's time but I agree that it doesn't necessarily have the metal edge, rather i would put it closer to proto-punk like the stooges or something.
Sumdeus, my perception of punk are peeps who don't even know how to play intruments, they sabotage (my ears hurt) and think it's good. Shocked I would certainly not call the Beatles punk nor any of their moozik tho' Unhappy
Hug
Wasn't it not The Beatles but The Quarrymen or something like that?
Back to Top
Kati View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 01:49
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

yeah Helter Skelter may have been a new step in just the raw energy and speed in rock music and certainly heavy for it's time but I agree that it doesn't necessarily have the metal edge, rather i would put it closer to proto-punk like the stooges or something.
Sumdeus, my perception of punk are peeps who don't even know how to play intruments, they sabotage (my ears hurt) and think it's good. Shocked I would certainly not call the Beatles punk nor any of their moozik tho' Unhappy
Hug
Wasn't it not The Beatles but The Quarrymen or something like that?
 
hehehehe Big smile Davenkirg I can't reply to this as I don't know much about the band besides knowing that Paul and Lennon were members prior to The Beatles lololol LOLHug


Edited by Kati - February 07 2013 at 01:50
Back to Top
Dayvenkirq View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 25 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 10970
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 01:51
^ Members of what?
Back to Top
Kati View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 02:03
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Members of what?
 
The Quarrymen as band members.
Back to Top
Kati View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 10 2010
Location: Earth
Status: Offline
Points: 6253
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 02:32
Honestly there's one thing as living in Africa while having to put up with other people's music, Rush is prog yes however I can't understand the number of people who voted Rush instead of the Beatles above Stern Smile this to me makes no sense seriously! Stern Smile No!!!
Back to Top
ProgMetaller2112 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 08 2012
Location: Pacoima,CA,USA
Status: Offline
Points: 3145
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 02:43
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Honestly there's one thing as living in Africa while having to put up with other people's music, Rush is prog yes however I can't understand the number of people who voted Rush instead of the Beatles above Stern Smile this to me makes no sense seriously! Stern Smile No!!!



Rush ain't Prog  LOL
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



Back to Top
moodyxadi View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 01 2005
Location: Brazil
Status: Offline
Points: 417
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 18:15
Where's the King Crimson X Cash poll? I'm eager to pay my tribute to the late Man in Black.
Bach, Ma, Bros, Déia, Dante.
Back to Top
Dellinger View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: June 18 2009
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 12732
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2013 at 18:54
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:



Honestly there's one thing as living in Africa while having to put up with other people's music, Rush is prog yes however I can't understand the number of people who voted Rush instead of the Beatles above Stern Smile this to me makes no sense seriously! Stern Smile No!!!


Well, The Beatles are still winning, so that should be good enough. I would guess that in a prog site Rush might get a bit of a hand to get a few more votes. I think they are both good, but indeed I may give the edge to The Beatles. Now, just out of curiosity, which do you prefer, The Beatles or Pink Floyd? (as a matter of fact, I believe there's a poll about that too).
Back to Top
DiamondDog View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 15 2011
Location: Cambridge
Status: Offline
Points: 320
Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2013 at 02:42
As I've tried to say already, it's impossible to judge The Beatles against anyone, because of the historical significance. It's not like for like.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2021222324 30>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.156 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.