Inappropriate Ratings

^ That sounds a little drastic and seems like it would weaken the database. What about this proposal.......Nobody can rate an album of the current year. They must review it. That way these people who give one album 5 stars and 20 other albums 1 star would have to justify in a review why they did such nonsense. After all, it is about the current years top album chart. In the second year it would be okay to commence the rating.

Battlestations wrote: Someone sure had a lot of free time today  http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=45443

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Battlestations wrote: Someone sure had a lot of free time today  http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=45443 I believe this guy should be banned immediately. 2667 ratings in one day...A real troll He rates so many albums 1 star because he thinks he is making a difference in the ratings - he is not making even a pebble in the ocean. What a waste of time annd energy.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - February 06 2013 at 17:17

Battlestations wrote: Someone sure had a lot of free time today  http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=45443

I came here to report this as well. Over 3000 ratings now. As an artist in this database, it's very disheartening that we have been targeted by many "ratings-only trolls" because we were up to #5 on the top releases of 2012. Ever since then, we get hammered with ratings form people like this who are just manipulating the position of releases on this list.

You would think that out of almost 80 ratings, more than three would have five minutes to write a few thoughts on it, but I am willing to bet that 2/3 of the ratings aren't even from anyone who listened to it.

There should be at least some standard of quality in this department. A limit on the number of ratings per member per day for starters, though I think that ratings-only can be done away with completely, as it's obviously more abused than not.

I am in complete agreement with you, Iván -- I wish that user would be banned and ratings revoked, and I also wish that there would at least be limitations on how many rating a member can leave in one day, at least, of not do away with rating completely and only allow reviews. I think that would escalate the value of the database tremendously. 

jplanet wrote: I am in complete agreement with you, Iván -- I wish that user would be banned and ratings revoked, and I also wish that there would at least be limitations on how many rating a member can leave in one day, at least, of not do away with rating completely and only allow reviews. I think that would escalate the value of the database tremendously.

Edited by Kati - February 06 2013 at 18:54

Dean wrote: You can only make 40 posts if you can write in English AND have something to say and that would be unfair on non-English speakers, the idea of ratings-only is to allow them opportunity to share in the site.   I would prefer that we simply scrap the Instant Ratings - that's where all the abuse comes from, and specifically from the chart listings - I was watching KOSTAS0918 systematically move down the charts rating each album in turn, not just the All-time top 100 and Top 2012 charts, but each genre chart as well. Using Instant Ratings he could rate albums quicker than I could delete them - and that's just fu*king stupid.   People put too much emphasis into the meaning of ratings and chart position (sorry John) - a score of 4.07 (or 4.14) and a top 30 position in a chart such as ours is a damn fine result and something to be proud of - it takes a lot of rating abuse to take that achievement away from any album.

jplanet wrote: For the non-English speakers, it takes only a few seconds to paste their review into Google Translate or similar. I love reading reviews that are translated that way, even if they are not 100% accurate. Or, let anyone submit in any language, and then include a link to a Google translation in English. Otherwise, I see nothing wrong with limiting ratings to five-per day for any member, add more or make it unlimited for members with a good reputation. I don't see where Progressive Ears is any competition - it is only a forum - and not even a very active forum in comparison to P.A., and has no database, which is P.A.'s biggest feature. Most people leaving only ratings don't even participate in any discussions.

Edited by Kati - February 06 2013 at 21:30

Kati wrote: Dean wrote: You can only make 40 posts if you can write in English AND have something to say and that would be unfair on non-English speakers, the idea of ratings-only is to allow them opportunity to share in the site.   I would prefer that we simply scrap the Instant Ratings - that's where all the abuse comes from, and specifically from the chart listings - I was watching KOSTAS0918 systematically move down the charts rating each album in turn, not just the All-time top 100 and Top 2012 charts, but each genre chart as well. Using Instant Ratings he could rate albums quicker than I could delete them - and that's just fu*king stupid.   People put too much emphasis into the meaning of ratings and chart position (sorry John) - a score of 4.07 (or 4.14) and a top 30 position in a chart such as ours is a damn fine result and something to be proud of - it takes a lot of rating abuse to take that achievement away from any album.   Dean, I understand your frustration, especially considering that you have to deal with it all the time over and over again 9no idea how you do it, i would go mad). However you do need to give more credit to non-English speakers, 40 posts are not reviews (they are just comments) anyone can do this. English is after all an international language. If one can't type one sentence I don't think they would subscribe to P.A. Also they certainly wouldn't not contribute anything to this site. This I believe would stop fake ratings popping up all the time just to rate/score. Anyway this is just my opinion and I really like this site and the people on here mostly. Hugs

1) Again, as Dean said, ratings-only merely provides the non-English speakers with the opportunity to share their opinion through stars (a non-lingual means).

Kati wrote:   jplanet, I will not discuss progressive ears on here, they have quite a big member base and most are not fans of P.A. for their own reasons. Enough said, this is a great site and I'll leave it here.   Also do not read too much into what I said, there are many sites who can easily compete to P.A. one of those is also DPRP they are good too, currently P.A. for me is the best and being stuck up with a broomstick stuck in our ahum won't help, all I want is to be upfront and helpful even if my ideas are wrong, atleast I care and am trying is to contribute for this site to be and maintain most influential.   jplanet sorry forgot the hug lolol plus hug me too

Who am I do deny a hug?



Yes, I am aware of the unfortunate cliques - hence the reason I have retreated a bit form discussions on any of the forums, though that is also because I am a rather non-neutral member since I've been creating prog music. Of course I will be interested in promoting myself, so I don't want to be a spammer, and I would want any discussions about my own music to be free of any knowledge of observation on my part, but that's another story...