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Barbu
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 10:13 |
Thought it was unlistenable for a good ten years and now it's probably my favorite Yes album. Go figure.
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M27Barney
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 14:54 |
I have to say that TFTO is up in the top ten symphonic prog albums of all time.....My top ten probably fluctuates in order and TFTO has been at No 1 a few times. Put it this way - I have listened to the album at least once per year (some years probably 10-15 times) since I bought it (Vinyl) in 1981/2 ish - I haven't listened to The Lamb for about four years.....
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Vin776
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 15:39 |
Hello I am a newbie here and really don't know my way around... I am writing an eBook about a neo-prog band called Bluebeard. From Los Angeles, they have been around since 1972 and despite a suicide in 2004 of lead singer/genius songwriter Robert Barry Leech and drummer Danny Bogan's death in 2011 while riding his Harley, we still play and record.
Check out The Story of Bluebeard and let me know how best to participate and contribute here.
Some songs: www.reverbnation.com/thestoryofbluebeard. Check out Bad Dream and Here I Am. We have 8 albums and working on a new one.
Two albums were released. We also have 44,000 Likes on our 8 month old Facebook page
www.facebook.com/bluebeardstory
Best, Vincent Bitetti - guitarist-archivist Bluebeard
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 16:32 |
^ Look, any person can figure out where to go for that on this forum. Don't just post about it in every thread that comes your way. Makes one think of spam.
If it helps, here are the links:
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Vin776
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 17:14 |
Thanks for the links No intention to Spam, I am new here and trying to network and get some opinions etc
Best Regards, Vincent Bitetti-Guitarist Bluebeard
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Dellinger
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:47 |
Tales has never been my favourite Yes album, though I apreciate the work of the band and really love "The Revealing Science of God". The rest, I do may consider a bit overlong, and may agree with Wakeman that it might have made a wonderful single album, with shorter versions of the songs (once again, except for "Revealing Science"). However, every time I read people about how great they find this album, I get some longing to hear it again; often enough, I end up not getting it though, and when I do I end up not liking it better than before, though sure enough I enjoy the listening.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 04 2013 at 23:44 |
Indeed this one is a tough nut to crack - I still find Genesis' 'Lamb' harder to penetrate - although both are very special and intense Prog essentials.............they just don't make 'em like this anymore....
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LittleMilton
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 10:53 |
Bought this album back in '78, and it has remained one of my all-time favorites ever since, with The Remembering as the highlight for me. The extended beauty and majesty of the whole composition is remarkable. The magical spark of Yes resounds throughout the four movements. Even though I've always loved CTTE, after listening to Tales for the first time I realized that CTTE was too short. Even though it is amazing in it's own right, I prefer the extended atmospheres and "meanderings" of Tales, if I had to choose.
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 12:03 |
LittleMilton wrote:
Bought this album back in '78, and it has remained one of my all-time favorites ever since, with The Remembering as the highlight for me. The extended beauty and majesty of the whole composition is remarkable. The magical spark of Yes resounds throughout the four movements. Even though I've always loved CTTE, after listening to Tales for the first time I realized that CTTE was too short. Even though it is amazing in it's own right, I prefer the extended atmospheres and "meanderings" of Tales, if I had to choose.
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Thanks for sharing! I, too, am partial to "The Remembering," but we seem to be in the minority on PA. I think most members usually select "The Revealing Science of God" as their favorite side.
The instrumental and vocals when Anderson and Squire sing "Relayer....all the dying cried before you!" on "The Remembering" is just awe-inspiring! Squire also uses a fretless bass throughout the side, which was very rare for him.
Excuse me, I'm going to listen to it now!
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LittleMilton
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 12:15 |
And as mentioned by someone earlier in the thread, the part you reference right on through "Stand, on hills of long forgotten yesterdays" might just be the be all and end all. I'm gonna have to listen to it again tonight.
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DiamondDog
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 17:44 |
For me, this album is the point of no return for Yes, a bridge too far.
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 17:54 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Indeed this one is a tough nut to crack - I still find Genesis' 'Lamb' harder to penetrate - although both are very special and intense Prog essentials.............they just don't make 'em like this anymore.... |
As I said, though I find Tales a tough nut to crack (to use your own words), I still find quiet a good amount of beauty to it, and from time to time feel compelled to return to it. About The Lamb, I just don't like it... right, some songs are nice on it, but there are more I just don't like, and I find the lyrics and concept in general un-enjoyable. Apart from both albums being double concept albums, I would say The Lamb is the Anti-Tales from Topographic Oceans; mainly because with Tales Yes went to do a full double album with only four extra progressive songs, while Genesis filled the Lamb with lots of shorter songs, less progressive and less impressive than the beauty they had achieved on their previous 2 or 3 albums.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 18:17 |
DiamondDog wrote:
For me, this album is the point of no return for Yes, a bridge too far. |
What do you mean?
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: February 05 2013 at 20:04 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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DiamondDog
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Posted: February 07 2013 at 13:39 |
I always liked Yes up till this point, but no, nothing since then has been on the same level, mainly due to a loss of sense I guess. That doesn't detract from the very fine legacy of the earlier work.
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Bj-1
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Posted: February 07 2013 at 14:33 |
Borrowed a vinyl copy from a friend around ten years ago and was hooked on first listen, the moods and progress in the album was absolutely amazing and constantly interesting. Now it's probably my desert island Yes album though greatly challenged by Close to the Edge.
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: February 07 2013 at 14:56 |
DiamondDog wrote:
I always liked Yes up till this point, but no, nothing since then has been on the same level, mainly due to a loss of sense I guess. That doesn't detract from the very fine legacy of the earlier work. |
Same here (not sure if you're excluding Tales; I am). Once Bruford left, they stopped being as tight as compact as they were and developed a tendency to "noodle around" and overstuff their songs with too many layers. I guess the Fragile/CTTE lineup achieved some kind of bizarre balance in which every instrumentalist tried to assert himself and dominate the mix, in the process taking up each other's room and canceling out each other's excesses. Alan White is a great drummer, but on top of having a looser style in general, there was also no way he could assume Bruford's status in the group's "power struggle" so soon after joining. This allowed the other three guys to fill up all the space that had been previously taken up by Bruford with their own stuff, and I think that often made for kind of a sonic mess.
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Gerinski
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Posted: February 07 2013 at 16:36 |
You need to be in the right mental state to fully enjoy TFTO, that's the difference.
Yes Album, CTTE, Fragile or even Relayer (not to mention any others) are much more 'ear & brain-friendly', I can't think there's ever been one time I did not enjoy listening to any of these, while in the case of TFTO I admit that on occasion I have aborted the listening.
But when you are in the right state of mind.... MASTERPIECE without question.
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: February 07 2013 at 18:19 |
I've only heard it in its entirety a couple times. I've read/heard so much hype over this album, that I just can't bring myself to listen to it when I don't have the time/place/frame-of-mind/etc. I have heard Revealing Science of God enough to know I love it, but not the rest of the album.
I even have the CDs in my car, but I'm rarely in my car for more than 10 minutes at a time, and it just doesn't work to listen to it bit-by-bit. Maybe that's why I listen to Rush's later albums in the car so much. Some music can be enjoyed in short periods while some can't.
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Vin776
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Posted: February 07 2013 at 18:48 |
Newbie here
Of all the prog concept albums The Wall, Passion Play, Tales etc Close To The Edge is my favorite and tales is a masterpiece but I have aborted the listening myself- as much as I love Yes and most self indulgent prog, this one is self indulgent beyond the pale as they say V
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