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    Posted: January 13 2013 at 14:29
If this topic is covered elsewhere, just point me to the relevant thread (I'm a newbie)....

What I'm interesed in with this thread is "prog" (subject to interpretation) songs by bands not listed at progarchives.com
They are not listed because the vast majority of their work is not prog related. However, sometimes as you all know, many such bands will occasionally stretch it out a bit and incorporate prog elements into a work. They may only perform one or two such songs like this in their entire careers. But do we have a place here for those songs? Are people interested in compiling a list? 

I want (or try to see) prog everywhere I go, and so I'm tempted anytime I really like something, regardless of the genre, to call it "prog" simply because to me it is fresh and inventive and unusual. Like with "Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys. For its time, it really  pushed the boundaries of what was possible.

Anyway, I will wait to hear if others think this is a good idea, or, more likely, if it is covered elsewhere (seems there is probably not much that hasn't been talked about here!)

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and i want to mention this too, Madlib is one of the best hip-hop producers around right now and he likes to release vinyl mixes which are literally a compilation mix of music he finds really good, there's a lot of different ones he's done with jazz, funk, soul, and other stuff but he also has a lot with lots of prog and prog-related stuff




i love this stuff cause he always puts hella good music in and i can always find something awesome and new


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Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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Yes it has been done before but never mind.
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Wow, that is fantastic!! That Grateful Dead song!  I mean, that is EXACTLY what I am looking for! I'm no Deadhead, so I only know a little of their work. But this I could listen to over and over. Thanks so much for kicking this off!!!

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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Yes it has been done before but never mind.

thanks - but is there a link to another thread so that I can maybe get some more ideas from there?

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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Prog Songs by non prog bands

thank you - its got almost the same title as mine..

So, now let me defer to the mods........shall I continue with this thread, or have it pulled while I shuffle over to the other one?

I see lots of room for expansion..

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I once heard a long version of 'Love Is Like Oxygen' by The Sweet - it sounded somewhat Proggy.........
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Originally posted by aldri7 aldri7 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Prog Songs by non prog bands

thank you - its got almost the same title as mine..

So, now let me defer to the mods........shall I continue with this thread, or have it pulled while I shuffle over to the other one?

I see lots of room for expansion..

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I'm no Mod (no Rocker either LOL) but I'd say that the right thing to do is jump along the previously existing thread (since it's not yet locked).

As a little contribution to the subject I could mention Dire Strait's Telegraph Road, or The Load Out / Stay from Jackson Browne's 1977 Running On Empty album, not strictly Prog but a great 9 min song when taken together.
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Thought this might fit this topic!

Alt/retro/psych/harmony rocker Matthew Sweet's almost 10 minute 4-part `Thunderstorm'



Anyone who likes the Byrds, Beach Boys will probably dig this guy.....Man, what a voice!
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Dire Straits' long songs:  i.e. Telegraph Road, Private Investigations.

The band is purely into hard/blues-rock category, but there songs are "epics" - they tell a story, and have a structure , which reminds prog epics 
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Janne Schaffer is the most well known session guitarist in Sweden. He is not on Progarchives, and of course, the music is pretty straightforward mostly, in the style of rhythmically playful funkfusion. I haven't heard all of his albums though. There's a song on his first album that I really like called Titus. Undoubtedly prog.. Björn J:son Lindh is guest musician on flute. (the other tracks aren't quite like that)




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This is a multi-part punk song that develops several musical themes, and goes through multiple tempo and meter changes, and even has a big dramatic finish.  It's a lengthy lyric about how "society" gradually molds little kids into placid, apathetic adults and screws them over whenever they can.  Damn I love this song.  "From the Cradle to the Grave" by Subhumans.  Add a bit more melody (and technique) to the vocalist and insert a few more "virtuoso" musical sections and you've basically got a prog epic here.




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Nice Subhumans selection. I used to have Worlds Apart on vinyl. Eventually sold it for beer money....such a dumb young punk I was.
 
 
Rurutia - "Pavane"
 
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Kid A and Amnesiac come to mind.
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Prelude/Angry Young Man - Billy Joel



Very complex intro, irregular chords and chord progressions (by conventional standards at least), synth solo... this is arguably the most proggy thing Billy Joel has ever released. I have no problem labeling it as a progressive rock song.
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Originally posted by fudgenuts64 fudgenuts64 wrote:

Kid A and Amnesiac come to mind.
They're not songs.
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Originally posted by aldri7 aldri7 wrote:

I want (or try to see) prog everywhere I go, and so I'm tempted anytime I really like something, regardless of the genre, to call it "prog" simply because to me it is fresh and inventive and unusual. Like with "Good Vibrations" by the Beach Boys. For its time, it really  pushed the boundaries of what was possible.

Anyway, I will wait to hear if others think this is a good idea, or, more likely, if it is covered elsewhere (seems there is probably not much that hasn't been talked about here!)

thanks -

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I understand and agree with what you're trying to convey that "prog" can be found in almost any genre of music especially when there is something (as you stated) "fresh and inventive and unusual," and "pushed the boundaries of what was possible." I'm glad you mentioned the Beach Boys "Good Vibrations" as I always felt it to be exactly that. Go back a little further to The Beatles "Tomorrow Never Knows" for that matter. Another example would the 1962 instrumental hit, "Telstar" by The Tornadoes.

A  musician friend of mine once  told me he even considered Bobbi Gentry's "Ode To Billy Joe" to be Prog because of the song's haunting string arrangement combined with the song's unusual subject matter slightly stretching the style and  boundaries of Country Music.

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