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Sagichim
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 00:01 |
Sumdeus wrote:
does anybody know the deal with Poseidon? I've always wondered what was up with it, it's like literally a variation on In The Court...
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Agree but it's still a great album, great music.
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jude111
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 00:11 |
Robert Fripp is over-rated on PA. Otherwise, if you asked your neighbor this question, they'd be like, "Robert who?"
Edited by jude111 - December 13 2012 at 00:11
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 00:31 |
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 02:43 |
rogerthat wrote:
What's wrong with Poseidon |
I never understood the deal with "The Devil's Triangle". Am I missing something or is it literally ten minutes of a mellotron making noise over a bolero rhythm?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 04:50 |
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
ten minutes of a mellotron making noise over a bolero rhythm?
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Now that's what I call Prog
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 05:24 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Argonaught
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 05:38 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
I'll answer those for you since I study this sh*t.
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Man, this is like a breath of fresh air: some folks will pussyfoot around the subject, calling the stuff they don't like "overrated", "overhyped", "overpromoted" ... and you just tell it like it is
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Argonaught
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 05:57 |
jude111 wrote:
Robert Fripp is over-rated on PA. Otherwise, if you asked your neighbor this question, they'd be like, "Robert who?"
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Choose your neighbors wisely, lest they embarrass you with their ignorance and lack of couth
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 08:07 |
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tamijo
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 08:38 |
HackettFan wrote:
Definitely NOT overrated. Underrated.
However, I still want my money back for that No Pussyfooting album I was enough of a sucker to buy. Anyone else got that one in their collection? |
O Ya, a classic in ambient, not the album I listen to once a week, but i love it, when in that mood.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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tamijo
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 08:44 |
If i had to pick anything Robert, that i have regets about paying for, its :
TOYAH AND FRIPP : THE LADY OR THE TIGER?
Otherwise everything i have got (and that is a lot) I enjoy.
Edited by tamijo - December 13 2012 at 08:44
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 12:26 |
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
What's wrong with Poseidon | I never understood the deal with "The Devil's Triangle". Am I missing something or is it literally ten minutes of a mellotron making noise over a bolero rhythm? |
Blame Gustav Hölst for that.
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infandous
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 14:04 |
Oh yeah, all the press Fripp gets, all the TV appearances, all the number one hits.........that dude is SO overrated. Wait.......who are we talking about?
Obviously, if anything, Fripp is highly underrated considering his impact and influence on our tiny little prog world. However, lest we forget, he had a bit wider influence on the new wave scene in NYC back in the 80's. Maybe not obvious since Fripp doesn't seem much interested in trumpeting his influence and skill around. As a musician there is no doubt of his skill and innovation where the guitar is concerned.
Having said all that, "overrated", "underrated" are purely subjective terms and are basically meaningless since you either like his music or you don't. In either case there is no argument someone can make to change your mind. Besides that, he has never been praised around here as much as Yes or Genesis, let alone Porcupine Tree or Dream Theater (as just a couple examples).
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 14:29 |
^ What if we focus just on the prog realm, is he really "overrated" (or whatever) within its bounds? But, I guess, you've already answered that question.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 13 2012 at 14:31
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Polymorphia
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 18:29 |
It depends on what you mean by "-rated." Is he as good as the prog community says he is? I don't think he is. Is he appreciated by as many people as he should be appreciated by? No, absolutely not.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 18:33 |
^ Do you think he is better than the prog community says he is, or worse? Do you think he should be appreciated by more people or less people?
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Horizons
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 19:26 |
As a guitarist, but the band he's apart of and the composing skills aren't whatsoever.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Sagichim
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 23:30 |
That's what they taught you? That's settles it then, why didn't you said so in the first place? Thanks everyone for participating, the ones who answered Yes are correct!! Sorry he's overrated and those albums too. Rush aren't though. Oh and Genesis too.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 23:38 |
I study this s$&t too, and yet I don't think they are.
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Loren
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Posted: December 13 2012 at 23:39 |
I'm not the biggest Fripp fan, but he does stand out to me as a guitarist. He has a very unique style and he is always trying something new. On top of that, have you ever listened to Fracture? That song makes my wrist hurt just listening to it.
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