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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Indeed, I'm also curious. Well ciggs had zero effect at all, but when you're piss drunk it's certainly a lot more debilitating than weed. And never done anything else but shrooms, acid, ecstasy and all seem much harder. Could've been just his personal tolerance and all |
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Sumdeus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 23 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Status: Offline Points: 831 |
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can you elaborate? I don't understand what you mean by this at all |
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Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Yeah that was pretty much it, spot on. Has been years, cliche I know but feel too old now ![]() Could agree, deff not a group thing and while it was enjoyable was never that great. |
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DisgruntledPorcupine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
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I'd say I'm an avid smoker. I try not to way overdo it though.
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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Not anymore. It's enjoyable, but it's not a group activity and it hinders research unlike something like alcohol which enhances it in an acceptable range.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Stooge ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 09 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 1003 |
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I really don't deal with weed much. I only ever partake in the prescence of a few of my friends who buy the stuff. I've never bought any though, but don't use enough of it to have anyone accuse me of freeloading.
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The Wizard ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7341 |
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I write papers stoned all the time but I avoid being too high when studying for tests. I think it's possible to handle a weed habit during school if you have enough of a tolerance and react well to weed in general.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20414 |
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yeah, I do believe that a good stable environement helps as well.... As the elder of three boys, I was the one breaking grounds and often getting in trouble for my mistakes ... yet my brothers did a few as well, but avoided many, because they learned from me....
Yet that didn't stop the younger one to have a slightly bigger drugs (incl alcohol) problem; partly due to some "dangerous" friends, that seemed to prance/prey on younger teens... I had to intervene twice to drive a few away... yet to this day, my brother is still more prone to drugs than I am
I was fairrly careful not to do drugs at school, and never did at work either... Though whenever studying, we sometimes did major bouts of smoking and it actually help us concentrate... flying colours in the next day's exams
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Coming back to upper professionals into drugs, they also have higher revenues, which means that they don't have to go to street dealers to get their cut-down junk... Most likely doctors know how to get medical-grade hard-drugs, with lesser side-effects.
Most countries have actual custom tarifs to import these drugs " legally" for hospital uses
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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That's the big question. I know many many people (my circle of close friends included, fortunately) who have done drugs (and some still do) and they are perfectly fine and lead perfectly normal respectable lives. Many would be surprised how many business high executives, doctors, lawyers etc consume coke in my native Spain, it's really unbelievable.
But I know a very few who also took the wrong turn.
You can not make a direct correlation but if you are close to drugs you have very probably a higher probability of getting into trouble.
In my experience the key is the basic education you received as a kid, until let's say 13 or 14 years old. I was fortunate to receive a very good education and my family was a normal (albeit sadly motherless) respectable middle class family.
When I became a teen and beyond I lead a somewhat wild life, but the education background was always there, I still had to maintain a certain lifestyle within my family, understood the importance of studying and working etc, so that "cultural hook to the normal society" always kept my feet on the ground and prevented me from crossing the line. You go wild but eventually you stick to what you were taught it's right as a kid.
People born and raised in less stable environments and not getting such a good basic education are probaly more at risk of taking the wrong turn, which is a sad thing. Edited by Gerinski - December 03 2012 at 12:54 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20414 |
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I alsi liked gerinski's intervention...
I have similar experience, though I never really smoked tobacco and stopped getting plazstered through alcohol devades ago (still enjoy a good drink though)
I'm kind of glad I dipped really dipped in the weed as lifestyle or constant party habits... had plenty of buddies that did, can't say they're better or worse off if they had done without it... I guess if I don't find it bad for them, it's pretty well worked out for thm, then
But I've seen quite a bit of dudes that took the wrong turn... Is it weed, alcohol or did they habe a predisposition at self-destruction? Don't know for sure, but weed probably played a partial role... It's probably better to avoid doing the rasta/ganja bit/attitude for too long, because the longer you do it, the harder it will be to swerve away from it...
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Jim Garten ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
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Also:
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Sumdeus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 23 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Status: Offline Points: 831 |
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I really don't feel like there's any way to consider weed a hard drug. It's so much milder than anything else that one can think of as a 'hard drug' |
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Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I ran into a friend of mine a few years ago that I had lost touch with a few years before that. I thought he'd be the last person to quit. He had quit drinking a few years before I had lost touch. He said the reason he quit smoking pot was because it was making him stupid. He was living in Florida where apparently you can easily get some really strong stuff. Still smokes cigarettes like a chimney.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Last week, I had one of the most astounding experiences in my life: listening to my brother explaining why he considered weed as a "hard drug" (while I remember having seen him smoking some joints and I'm nearly sure he may have experimented with ecstasy a dozen years ago).
He was rather convincing. |
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refugee ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026 |
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He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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Used to be avid many moons ago, until most of my group of 'friends' migrated to whacking up speed (and beyond) - sh*t went seriously pear-shaped after that..........weed doesn't cause problems on its own, nasty people who dick with the weed do..... lucky I've survived until now.......and clean (and a bit 'loopy'
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Gerinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
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I guess that they all contribute, but don't ask me why, I have the feeling that in terms of affecting long-term brain performance, cannabis (in both forms hash and weed) is the one which has had the most negative effects. Maybe only because it's the drug I consumed when youngest and therefore when the brain is still most vulnerable, other drugs I only tried when already an adult.
And in any case I can not be sure that my (relatively minor) problems are related to drug consumption at all, it's only a guess or a feeling.
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
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Sweets - best drug ever.
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HolyMoly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
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