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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:43
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Ok, that was a harsh assessment.  But just curious....do you guys think it's a better album than anything that preceded it?  
 
No, but it's definitely miles better than Coda.
 
I really like it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:50
I really like it as wellEmbarrassed Then again, there are bands that I just love without any shadow of doubt - and beyond reasoning. Ok maybe Zep isn't the best example, but I wouldn't think twice about awarding every Doors album with 5 stars - yes also The Soft Parade. Same with every Black Sabbath release up until Sabotage. Every note, lyric and atmosphere is ingrained in my mind and I can't for the life of me find any fault with any of it. Which is why I don't review them - too close and personal to be interesting. I think there are a lot of people who feel the same way about a band like Zep. That 7headedchicken reviewer here at PA obviously knows what I'm on about. Look at his distribution of 5 stars....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 07:00
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Ok, that was a harsh assessment.  But just curious....do you guys think it's a better album than anything that preceded it?  
 
No, but it's definitely miles better than Coda.
 


Definitely. No comparison really. I probably prefer it to I and II as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 09:10
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Ok, that was a harsh assessment.  But just curious....do you guys think it's a better album than anything that preceded it?  
 
No, but it's definitely miles better than Coda.
 


Definitely. No comparison really. I probably prefer it to I and II as well.


So basically most of us agree it's a good album but it's currently rated with 2.88. Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 10:03
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

So basically most of us agree it's a good album but it's currently rated with 2.88. Ermm

Let me step up as a member of the apparently silent majority then and declare that I don't really like it. Well, it's okay, I gave it three stars, but I would say it's their worst studio album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 19:18
Our young Padawan who started this thread should not overlook Presence and their most prog tune ever of "Achilles Last Stand".  They were on fire on that one as they seemed to have a renewed aggressiveness after Plant's auto wreck.  I never tire of that song after all these years, not to mention Tea is for One and Nobody's Fault but Mine (no matter who wrote that one).  I find myself listening to Presence more than the others, mostly because of Achilles.
 
Of Course Physical Graffiti is their Swan Song to me.  For the most part you would be splitting hairs on all the albums up until the last 2 even though they are descent albums.  If some other band would have recorded them, they probably would have been getting rave reviews.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 04:30
I see you've checked out IV and PG, Andrew. That's probably their best ones. I would recommend you check out III next, especially if you like the acoustic parts of the albums you've already heard, but you really can't go wrong with any of their first six albums. Presence, ITtOD and Coda are good too, but I would recommend checking them out last (and also in that order).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 10:58
^ Well, there is no telling where one can go right or wrong. E.g., I'm not quite keen on I, II and, III, though I do really enjoy IV and Houses and I kind of get PG.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 12:49
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Well, there is no telling where one can go right or wrong. E.g., I'm not quite keen on I, II and, III, though I do really enjoy IV and Houses and I kind of get PG.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 12:58
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Well, there is no telling where one can go right or wrong.
I.e. one should not ask for recommendations, but check them all out and find out for oneself?
 
No, I agree, there's no telling where one can go right or wrong, but Andrew (smartpatrol) asked where to go next, and I answered him what I thought.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 15:07
I'm thinking what I'll do know that I've listened to IV and PG is listen to HoH, sense it came between those two, then listen to their first three, and then their later three.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 15:12
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:


Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Well, there is no telling where one can go right or wrong.
I.e. one should not ask for recommendations, but check them all out and find out for oneself?
 
No, I agree, there's no telling where one can go right or wrong, but Andrew (smartpatrol) asked where to go next, and I answered him what I thought.
Well, that's the thing - I don't think he should have. It's just like what a few people on this thread have said before: just go through the catalog casually (like me with Renaissance, which worked out), not systematically (like me with Pain of Salvation, which did not really work out). That's why I think that guy Wolfhound will have a big problem going through all the prog bands, perceiving new musical information on a regular basis without digesting it. He'll get burned out doing that and will lose interest in such an undertaking.

Andrew, just enjoy the music, man. This is the very meaning of LZ - to let people have a good time, not just hop through the albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 16:38
Well, Andrey, I agree with you, to some extent. The way you describe how you discovered the music of Renaissance is much the same way I discovered LZ, JT and GG, the three bands which music I hold closest to my heart, by going through their discography my own way and in my own pace.
 
On the other hand, I have discovered some great music after getting recommendations also, so I wouldn't categorically rule out the possibility of falling in love with music after getting advise on where to start, where to go next and so on, with an artist. It's up to each individual how he, or she, feel it's best for them to experience new music. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 16:54
I much prefer being recced stuff when it comes to checking out a new band. especially with stuff like prog, the issue i usually run into is when you get to the point where the band's music isn't very strong anymore and i end up sitting through a bunch of albums that aren't all that interesting just because i feel obligated to try them and see if there's anything worth there. so yeah i'd much rather have someone whose music taste i trust help guide me and tell me at one point in their discography a band isn't really worth bothering with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:42
Zep I and II are my faves. Powerful blues and acoustic tunes, rawer in production, just great.

III is less consistent, in my opinion, but has some lovely tunes. 

As for their best album, compositionally speaking, I think it's Houses of the Holy. It continues with IV more elaborated production. 

Presence and Physical Graffiti also have interesting stuff, some classic rockers. 

Yes, each Zep album has it's must-listens, and that's coming from a Deep Purple fan.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:55
So far I've heard IV, HoH, and PG. IV is great, only a couple of songs I don't like. HoH is great, lots of great songs, great production, and can't really say I dislike any of them. PG is a mixed bag for me; lots of fantastic songs but about half of the album is meh. I think I'll go for II, III, and I next. followed by Presence, ITtOD and Coda.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:55
Thanks for all your recommendations. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 18:08
I don't like a lot of live albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2012 at 00:00
I agree that PG, while it has many great songs, has too much filler as well.
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