Political discussion thread

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Predictably, government regulation hurts the working class and raises the cost of living.

Epignosis wrote: Predictably, government regulation hurts the working class and raises the cost of living.

Waiting to see how the ACA affects our coverage.....

Finnforest wrote: Epignosis wrote: Predictably, government regulation hurts the working class and raises the cost of living. Waiting to see how the ACA affects our coverage.....

Also, this idea you have that corporations making money is a bad thing is ridiculous. When a company makes just enough to break even you know what you have? A mom and pop store with two employees that never grows and never changes. When companies make profits, they expand, they improve, they sell more goods, which is good for customers, they hire more workers, which is good for labor, and they generally make the world a better place. Thank god Henry Ford and Edison were greedy and wanted to make as much money as possible or we wouldn't have cars and lightbulbs today.

Wow, interesting video on health care

Free market style?

thellama73 wrote: Hostess employees, by striking to demand more money, have protested their way right out of a job: all 18,500 of them. Way to go unions! Not only will we have no more delicious Twinkies and Ho Hos, we will have even more out of work Americans!

Owww. come on Logan - the company was almost 1 billion dollars in debt and had a 2 billion dollar unfunded pension liability - the chances of any company surviving Chapter 11 for the second time in 8 years were slim to zero - the only thing the creditors, owners, management and employees were scrapping over was the who would walk away from the mess with some cash in their pockets. In a case of bankrupcy the employees and the owners were never going to win anything as the creditors would always get paid first. In 2011 the company was losing $2m a week and the top executives awarded themselves an 80% pay raise... that's not what you do when you're trying to save a business, and the unions, in trying to salvage as much as they could of the employee pensions, were just doing the same and that's not what you do when you're trying to save jobs (they were not demanding more money - the union turned down a $1.9m  "long term compensation" package - for 18,500 employees, you do the maths). There are faults on all sides, and without delving too deeply into the details it seems apparent that what rescued them in 2009 was the unions and the investors, not the owners or management, so blaming the unions alone for the eventual demise is not entirely accurate.

thellama73 wrote: Hostess employees, by striking to demand more money, have protested their way right out of a job: all 18,500 of them. Way to go unions! Not only will we have no more delicious Twinkies and Ho Hos, we will have even more out of work Americans! I also find this interesting. Here's a graph of the Dow Jones Industrial Average over the last three moths. That last peak occurred on November 6th. Look what has happened since.

Finnforest wrote: i love this woman

I personally know a few examples of people who live off government aid who are just plain useless. This is another example.

^Newsflash to Dtguitarfan: