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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2012 at 12:21
AZRA, YU GRUPA, ELEKTRICNI ORGAZAM  NISU PROG ROCK!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2012 at 12:41
Neither are Blue Oyster Cult, Radiohead and other bands but they are still on the site

These bands are not entirely prog yet they have had a prog background and/or were influenced by it. I just posted electricni orgazam as a general idea of the rock music seen in SFRY, i'm well aware that They have nothing to do with prog :P


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2012 at 11:50
So, there are lots of (ex-)yugoslavians here Smile
Thanks for all these posts.
Weirdamigo, I understand you as you say there are tears coming by hearing rucni rad (meaning "hand made", by the way, for those who don't understand). For me, it's the same.
In "Tangenta" also, there is a song which progressively comes up. It's called "tako blizu (do suza)" (so close to tears):

http://www.youtube.com/embed/UX6lcu9lVWQ
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2012 at 17:25
Nice to see this little thread again. I kept researching around and I'm glad I contributed to get a few older bands here like Na Lepem Prijazni, Miha Kralj and some unknown rarity Dzejbi which I couldn't find any info about. The more I go through history though I don't think there will be anything new prog coming up for the ex-country anymore, not that I won't be coming back to that music, I love a lot of it (I am still waiting though for response from the team on Vladimir Furfuj who made nice fusion after Korni Grupa).

Here's some stuff by a band Don that I found labeled as prog rock but it's a bit cheesy for me; I do I think it has a bit different 80's flavour than art rock bands of the same era (which I like better). Check it out, maybe someone will see some more merit in this.





And I know we're limited on this threads but I do think the 80's still have some hidden if not prog, but nice experimental stuff more related to new wave.





And for something way way back, one single from Kameleoni had a rather nice vintage psychedelic flavour, it's pretty cool,  I hoped it would lead to better things as this kind of stuff proto-prog bands are made of, but they just made beat singles.



Some of them went into Boomerang but I think it's a bit light to be prog.



You were compiling quite of info here Weirdamigo, hope this blog continues Beer
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2012 at 09:40
Great thread, Weirdamigo! Here's some suggestions if you ever decide to revive this thread:
Bijelo dugme
Indexi
Drugi način
Teška industrija
Dah
Tako
Pop mašina
Gordi
Atomsko sklonište (not really prog, but if Azra and Kerber can be here, then these guys deserve a spot too)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2012 at 17:02

Interestingly, I never thought of Yugoslavia as a "communist" country. I know for a fact that Yugoslavians were never in the Warsaw Pact. I believe they were free to travel abroad and to go to church. The agriculture was in private hands and the businesses ran like employee-owned enterprises in the West rather than being controlled by the Party functionaries. 

True? False?

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2012 at 15:11
Well, some would say there were no communist countries in history at all - just socialist countries ruled by communist parties, with communism being the desired system the parties wanted to achieve.
You're right about Yugoslavia being more liberal than other communist countries - still, it was ruled by a communist party, and a cult of personality of president Tito was also endorsed by the government.
In fact, Yugoslavia was one of USSR's biggest allies at the beginning of Cold War, but managed to remain independent and unaligned after Tito's split with Stalin in 1948.
I've also heard stories of people losing their jobs if they went to church, or getting imprisoned for singing nationalist songs. Fortunately, the regime didn't restrict musical creativity that much, which resulted in a plethora of great bands forming in Yugoslavia.
I don't know about agriculture and the businesses, but I'm certain private ownership was allowed to a degree.

Anyway...Let's get back to the music!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:19
Originally posted by The Great Duck The Great Duck wrote:


I've also heard stories of people losing their jobs if they went to church, or getting imprisoned for singing nationalist songs. Fortunately, the regime didn't restrict musical creativity that much, which resulted in a plethora of great bands forming in Yugoslavia.
I don't know about agriculture and the businesses,...


It's NOT true that people were losing their job "if they went to the church", this is just falsehood by "modern" fascists. All of religions and that freedom to be religious, in Tito's Yugoslavia were highly respected.
 
Marshal Tito and his wife recieved by pope Paul VI in Vatican
 
 
 
 
Also, nobody was imprisoned in Marshal Tito's Yugoslavia if sings folk and patriots songs from WW2, WW 1, or from earlier historical periods (actually, we were learned to sing them as part of basic school programme), but if one was singing a fascist ( "nationalist") songs what were singing by a number of quisling forces during the WW2, as "ustashe", "chetniks", etc., it has to be punish, but it was not more than 60 days in a low security jails. Well, Marshal Tito's partisans was only one movement in occupated Yugoslavia who was fight against Germans in WW2, they were a fanatic fighters for freedom, so that was perfectly normal thing to punish these obscure fascists .
 
A decade after Tito's death, these lovely "nationalists" somehow took a freedom  to sing loudly and proudly their fascist songs, and in early '90s, a beautiful Socialistic Federative Republic of Yugoslavia was buried and so many people died, losing their homes, etc.
 
A socio-economic development was great in Marshal Tito' Socialistic Federative Republic of Yugoslavia, as same as agriculture (what was very primitive in pro-fascist Kingdom of Yugoslavia), also industry, export-import bussines, science development, etc. A system was based on workers-self management. Small private bussines ( 20 employees mostly were allowed) was welcomed and very profitabile at that time, so I know people who get  millions of USD in Tito's Yugoslavia.
 
Marshal Tito was a genius without a question.
 
 
 
 
 He was a man, he was our best souvereign.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 06:23
Dunno, I've heard people were getting arrested for singing Vila Velebita or Ustani bane.
Yugoslavia had bad relations with the Vatican for some time IIRC, and let's not forget what was done to cardinal Stepinac.
You're also wrong about Tito's partisans being the only ones who fought the Germans - the Četniks were in the resistance too at first, but soon decided fighting the partisans for domination in future Yugoslavia was a priority, so they sided with the Axis.

But let's get back to the music now!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 11:48
Of course! I know that so many wild drunks have to spend few days in jail because they were screeming Ustani bane or Vojvodo Sindjelicu in death of the night and wake up everybody in a block. Now it's free to do it and now it's an awesome choir that you can't imagine LOL
 
How "chetniks" were fighting against Germans in WW2, those photos shows at its best LOL
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Finally, what you have to say about this drinking contest:
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 13:09
Originally posted by historian9 historian9 wrote:

/.../  I don't think there will be anything new prog coming up  /.../ 
Problem is - no listeners, because youngsters are listening to mediocre stuff at most, but there is prog, a very 'fresh air', what means that this is not recycled 70's Tako or Drugi Način.
 
For example, Ana Never's new full lenght album is a masterpiece of post rock, a genre which wasn't existed in 70s.
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 13:41
Hahha, I'm well aware četniks were pro-fascist b*****ds (and I should note I'm a Croat, so I don't support četniks in any way, just to clear that). It's just that they were pro-Allied for a while, but then joined the Germans (although, the German ultimate aim was to eventually disarm them; the Italians were the biggest supporters of the četniks, which led to many protests from both the Germans and the NDH authorities, although both would also collaborate with some četnik units). But as I undestand it, there were several četnik factions in Yugoslavia - the ones led by Draža Mihailović were supported by the Allies until 1943, when they realized that the četniks fought for power in Yugoslavia against the Partisans, rather than collaborating with them against the Axis.
OTOH, the ones led by Kosta Pećanac were Axis collaborators from the very beginning, I believe. But we're getting too off-topic here...

EDIT: That last picture is of četniks with an ustaša officer, right?


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