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sleeper
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Posted: November 02 2012 at 08:41 |
tel me about it, when the fifth best team in F1 is having to look for paydrivers, you know something is wrong.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 02 2012 at 22:57 |
Very wrong.
Well F1 is cut throat, hope this isn't the end of Kam. He needs to be picked up by someone. I have no idea what possible openings there are.
Edited by JJLehto - November 02 2012 at 22:58
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MillsLayne
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 03:10 |
Between Johnson and Vettel starting to dominate their respective series, the motorsport season is starting to end badly.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 03:32 |
I wouldn't say either is done at this point.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 09:57 |
Excellent lap from Hamilton today, Vettel did not look comfortable out there. And Maldonado starting 4th, cat and pigeons comes to mind.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 13:55 |
Vettel has been sent to the back, the stewards clearly not happy with Red Bulls excuse for telling him to turn off the car on his slow down lap after qualy. Should be interesting to see how comes through tomorrow. I imagine Alonso is doing a happy dance right now.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 13:58 |
Gasp!
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 14:40 |
Indeed, huge news for Alonso. This is exactly the type of thing he needs to have any chance of topping Vettel. Should be great seeing Vettel attempt to come through the field, and Alonso pushing to get far as possible. Wanna say strong quali result from Pastor again. Some incidents his fault, some not, some mechanical issues...had a better year than the standings indicate. I can't really give him any flak for skill anymore. Ah well guess you don't need someone to dislike  And interesting, after such a loopy year things really have settled. In this quali the teams are really clustered and a hierarchy is pretty set now. Chances looking worse for any of the bottom feeders to score a point
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sleeper
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 16:08 |
Details on Vettel. Turns out it was a fuel cell problem that Renault detected on the slow down lap and ordered for the car to be switched off. They and Red Bull successfully argued with the stewards force majeaur (sp?) but the rules state that a 1L fuel sample must be provided and only 850ml was extracted. Renault are convince that there is/was enough fuel in the cell but it can't be got at, so Vettel was sent to the back of grid. They've since pulled his car from parc ferme to fully investigate what happened as they don't know yet, so he'll start from the pitlane.
For once it looks like the Abu Dhabi GP might provide us with an interesting race, shame I'm going to a christening tomorrow (well, sort of) so I'll have to catch it on line tomorrow night.
I'm not surprised things have calmed down, it was always a matter of understanding the tyres and that just needed track time, which they've had plenty of at this point of the season. I doubt the start of next season will be so crazy.
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MillsLayne
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 19:00 |
Alonso and Ferrari need to pounce on this opportunity because Vettel will be up towards the front before the race ends.
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Posted: November 03 2012 at 23:51 |
What a chance for Alonso, he and his team have to make a great race tomorrow, they can comeback to the first place after Abu Dhabi. It will be interesting!
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 04 2012 at 07:39 |
Well it is already a challenge for Vettel, you can fly through the backmarkers but it gets progressively difficult as you move up. Didn't help himself with some minor damage and that last pit, pushing him down to 19th.... Gunna be quite a drive to salvage something good from this. But hey, champions need a champion caliber drive.
I was thinking Alonso can easily nab 3rd, which would be great but so far Maldonado is hanging in there. Probably gunna miss the last few laps but I'm pulling for Fernando big time.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 04 2012 at 07:48 |
Wow Lewis out! Poor soul, was breezing to an easy victory at this rate. Huge help for Alonso though, as well Kimi now thrust into the lead. This would be a superb podium, especially if Webber gets in there. edit: NVM  Can't say that was Pastor's fault. Gaaah have to go.  So curious if Vettel can hold on the whole race without pitting. Seems impossible but we'll see. And all that, he can only drive in the lead bullsh*t has to be laid to rest finally. Shame James isn't really around anymore to come with a massive illogical debate on how it's wrong heh
Edited by JJLehto - November 04 2012 at 08:08
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 04 2012 at 09:53 |
awesome podium! Congrats to kimi on his first win back, and of course to vettel. Nothing against Perez at all but im kinda glad to see kam finish better. gunna be a helluva finish
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MillsLayne
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Posted: November 04 2012 at 13:15 |
Too bad Jenson couldn't hold off Vettel, but he did a helluva job holding him off as long as he did. At least Alonso took a slight chunk out of Vettel's point, but I doubt it'll be enough.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 04 2012 at 21:33 |
With the current F1 system man, Vettel has it far from locked up! I mean he's in great position but he's not safe. One mishap and it could be over. Even just besting Vettel by a few positions could be enough. It has made things very exciting.
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sleeper
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Posted: November 05 2012 at 05:40 |
Who wouldhave thought it possible, Abu Dhabi actually provided a good race! Amazing.
brilliant drive from Kimi, I really thouht that the Lotus had dropped too far off the pace now for a win to be possible, but there it is. I'm getting worried about Perez, he's made bad mistakes in every race since he signed that McLaren contract. Nice drive from Maldonado too, and for once we can say that the collisions werent his fault either. Shame the KERS broke, he might have been able to fight for the podium without that.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: November 05 2012 at 14:31 |
Kimi!  Crazy race from Vettel coming through the field like that. Wish I couldve seen it. Sounded like a pretty awesome race. And finally! The return to the USA. Very excited about the track...looks good and a new track can be unpredictable. Looking forward to it.
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JJLehto
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Posted: November 05 2012 at 21:51 |
Agreed Sleeper. The Kimi win was just a fantasy for me now, I was shocked to see he held on. The crazy ass Finn still got it! Perez is still young, hell if Pastor has shown improvement there's hope for all  AWWW YEAH! Finally F1 is back here. I do love the track, so long and flowing, not like these clusterf**ks nowadays.
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Posted: November 06 2012 at 17:24 |
Lol at Vettel on the podium being interviewed.
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