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Atavachron
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 17:44 |
DiamondDog wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
tary wrote:
of course, Jethro Tull!!!!!!!!! Thick as a Brick , a Passion Play, Aqualung, Songs from the Wood, Heavy Horses and so many other genius albums! Jethro Tull would beat OVERRATED Led Zeppelin with just Thick As A Brick! Tull never stole music unlike Zeppelin, whose best songs are just stolen from earlier blues bands! | no need to post twice-- Tull stole plenty of music, they were a blues/folk/rock band and as most bands based in those mediums, like say Zeppelin, they derive not just inspiration but a good deal of material; they lift, poach, borrow, and flat-out steal sometimes. So did the Stones, Hendrix, Cream. Oh and the countless bands since that take from Zeppelin itself. | According to Tull's manager, the title and idea for "Living in the Past" came from a Clouds song in the Scrapbook album. Then again, I wouldn't say Jethro was particularly guilty of robbing Peter, Paul, and Mary, the band seems very generally very original to me. |
You mean as opposed to Zep, one of the most unique groups of the late 60s ?
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 18 2012 at 18:30 |
hobocamp wrote:
Isn't that a recorder, not a flute, on the intro to Stairway?
Nevertheless, nothing Ian could contribute would improve that turd (except possibly lyrics about rock critics having sex with underaged boys).
Lol kidding, of course. I love Zep but hate that track |
It sounds like a real flute to me, but I might be mistaken, of course.
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 05:38 |
It's most definitely a recorder.
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WisdomBeginsInWonder
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 07:21 |
Jethro Tull,for sure
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Life Can Be Hilariously Cruel.
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Lifeofprog
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 11:48 |
That's a tough call,while both bands had their respective roots in folk,blues and rock. Tull was much more of a prog' band.Zep' as latter albums can attest to were more interested in playing music in a rock context.I don't think you can compare the two really,they both are outstanding bands in their own right
Edited by Lifeofprog - October 19 2012 at 13:09
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ole-the-first
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 15:38 |
Zep
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This night wounds time.
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 19:15 |
Jethro by far. Come on. Thick as a Brick and Aqualung. Zep can't compete with that kind of musicianship
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 20:40 |
Dellinger wrote:
hobocamp wrote:
Isn't that a recorder, not a flute, on the intro to Stairway?
Nevertheless, nothing Ian could contribute would improve that turd (except possibly lyrics about rock critics having sex with underaged boys).
Lol kidding, of course. I love Zep but hate that track |
It sounds like a real flute to me, but I might be mistaken, of course. |
When played live it was a mellotron, in the studio it was likely JPJ on a recorder using multiple tracks.
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 22:53 |
progbethyname wrote:
Jethro by far. Come on. Thick as a Brick and Aqualung. Zep can't compete with that kind of musicianship |
I don't neccesarily disagree with that but then, JT also had the luxury of at least more musician (and my Madison square garden DVD has a line up of six musicians) which does make a difference. Anyhow, as between Plant and Anderson, I know who I prefer and I can't say I prefer Page over Barre, for all that the former is such an influential figure in rock. Cannot call Barlow v/s Bonham, both amazing. I find both a bit excessive in different ways. There's a bit too much of showmanship and not enough composition for my liking, but that's just me and I always say that over the top bands have a place in rock and are quite an important part of the package. I think the fact that Anderson is so versatile gives Tull more options vis-a-vis LZ and their sound is also more British than LZ, which I like.
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dr prog
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 23:17 |
The biggest difference isn't the musicians, it's the composers. Ian covers Zeps on his own in that department :D
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 19 2012 at 23:22 |
Zeppelin I crave often. Tull bores me now, though I enjoyed them when I was a kid.
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deckard33
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 16:02 |
Tull by far !!
I never got very excited by Led Zep music.
Don't know why ...
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Sumdeus
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 16:26 |
Zep for me. I like Tull, but they're not quite as important to me. Zep were one of the first rock'n'roll bands i started idolizing (as I'm sure they were for many)
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tamijo
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Posted: November 02 2012 at 10:40 |
This is a both, is and have been for ages amongst those very few band, that I can allway listen to one more time.
Edited by tamijo - November 02 2012 at 10:41
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: November 02 2012 at 12:43 |
Jethro Tull. Led Zeppelin have made a number of songs I love dearly ("The Battle of Evermore", "Stairway to Heaven", "No Quarter", "Achilles' Last Stand", to name a few), but Jethro Tull have made more and they're more consistent on an album basis. There's no Led Zeppelin album that comes close to Aqualung and Thick as a Brick and probably only one (Houses of the Holy) that surpasses Songs from the Wood and Heavy Horses.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: November 02 2012 at 22:03 |
Jethro Tull. But I also own all Zeppelin's albums. Both great bands, but I think Tull speaks to me more. And of course the lyrics are far better, which aids in the speaking.
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TheLionOfPrague
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Posted: November 10 2012 at 22:40 |
I find Tull a lot more interesting. Most of their 70's stuff is fantastic. Brick, Aqualung, Heavy Horses, Passion Play, SFTW, Stormwatch. All great albums, though APP can get a bit dull in certain moments.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: November 10 2012 at 22:46 |
i voted zeppelin
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resurrection
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Posted: November 11 2012 at 02:00 |
Tull a definite for me
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verslibre
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Posted: November 11 2012 at 02:14 |
Tull by a woodland mile! Songs From The Wood and Stormwatch clinch it (as opposed to clench it). Then you throw TAAB, MITG, Heavy Horses, A and BATB on top of those, and you have many, many hours of fantastic music.
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