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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:27
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Fox news is probably THE most impartial network out there


I'm going to quote you on that every chance I get from now on.
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Horses and Bayonets!!!!
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Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:


Fox news is probably THE most impartial network out there

Okay, let's just forget the BBC, ABC, NBC, and CNN (CNN is close, tho)!



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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:


Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Fox news is probably THE most impartial network out there
I'm going to quote you on that every chance I get from now on.

Obviously meant to say "least impartial" or "most skewed/biased/partial."
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Just wondering, how many Americans actually follow both the democratic and republican news networks, on a daily basis ?

if you only follow one or the other, You basically couldn't tell if its better or not, could you.?
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Points: 14169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:37
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Just wondering, how many Americans actually follow both the democratic and republican news networks, on a daily basis ?

if you only follow one or the other, You basically couldn't tell if its better or not, could you.?


I check several of them out from time to time, but I generally try to stay away from mainstream news. I get all my politics related media from several sources on Youtube and try my best to watch videos from Libs, Conservatives, Libertarians, Social-demos, ect.
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:37
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Just wondering, how many Americans actually follow both the democratic and republican news networks, on a daily basis ?

if you only follow one or the other, You basically couldn't tell if its better or not, could you.?


I don't know the answer, but I follow both. It's part of my job.
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Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

Horses and Bayonets!!!!

I skipped this debate because the other two made me too mad, but when I read about that line I was sad I missed it.

On Fox news and impartiality:
I scanned the headlines and saw a few saying Obama clearly won last night's debate (but one asked if it would matter), and then saw Fox News' headline, which said Romney came off like a leader and Obama like a monarch. I thought: "yup, I think it's safe to say Obama was the clear winner...."   Fox might as well have had "Hey! No fair!" as their headline.
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Venezuela President Hugo Chavez, after winning a fourth term earlier this month, reportedly said he would vote for Obama and that the president would likely vote for him.

The socialist-leaning ruler also reportedly called Obama a “good guy.”

His support follows that of the Castro family, which has ruled Cuba under a communist dictatorship for more than 50 years.

In June, Mariela Castro, the daughter of Cuban President Raul Castro, said in a CNN interview, translated into English: “As a citizen of the world, I would like (Obama) to win.”  




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Originally posted by dtguitarfan dtguitarfan wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I don't give a f**k what some people say but I actually believe FoxNews is much more impartial than Msnbc (comparing the supposed two "extremes"). Yes, FN has its Hannity and O'Reilly, but most everybody else is pretty good. After the debate they actually don't root for nobody. There's not ONE person in Msnbc that can even act like they don't hate Romney and root to death till Obama.

I know in the end it's sad that this is what politics have come down to but I have been noticing this lately and had to comment.

That's one if the funniest things I've seen on here. Fox news is probably THE most impartial network out there - they twist everything from the left into a conspiracy and everything from the right into a righteous crusade. Watch Stewart - he doesn't even have to write jokes, he can just show clips from Fox news and it's funny.

Ohh yes, we got that in Denmark too, wonderful, but was better back in GWB days, he was a walking one liner.
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Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/31/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-said-barack-obama-began-his-presidency/
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yay, Politifact
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In 2012, Obama apologized for the accidental burning of copies of the Quran, the holy book of Islam. Obama sent the apology in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Officials hoped the formal apology would quell violent reactions against U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Why would you apologize for that?????
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:49
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Just wondering, how many Americans actually follow both the democratic and republican news networks, on a daily basis ?

if you only follow one or the other, You basically couldn't tell if its better or not, could you.?


I don't know the answer, but I follow both. It's part of my job.

Media here in Denmark, seems to believe, that in large parts of US. Most people follow the network representing the view they already hold, making their vote given in advance, due to the fact, that the news they get only strengthens what they already think. So there can never be a landslide victory, unless something really massive happens.

If its true or not, I don't know, I have never traveled in US.
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:51
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Just wondering, how many Americans actually follow both the democratic and republican news networks, on a daily basis ?

if you only follow one or the other, You basically couldn't tell if its better or not, could you.?


I don't know the answer, but I follow both. It's part of my job.

Media here in Denmark, seems to believe, that in large parts of US. Most people follow the network representing the view they already hold, making their vote given in advance, due to the fact, that the news they get only strengthens what they already think. So there can never be a landslide victory, unless something really massive happens.

If its true or not, I don't know, I have never traveled in US.


I think that is probably mostly true.
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Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

In 2012, Obama apologized for the accidental burning of copies of the Quran, the holy book of Islam. Obama sent the apology in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Officials hoped the formal apology would quell violent reactions against U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Why would you apologize for that?????
Because civilized people stopped book burning 100 years ago. And he believe US should act civilized I guess.
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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:55
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

In 2012, Obama apologized for the accidental burning of copies of the Quran, the holy book of Islam. Obama sent the apology in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Officials hoped the formal apology would quell violent reactions against U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Why would you apologize for that?????
Because civilized people stopped book burning 100 years ago. And he believe US should act civilized I guess.


A systematic state sponsored book burning is hardly the same thing as an isolated incident of a person setting fire to what is, after all, his property. In this case, it was even accidental. It seems like a stupid thing to even bring up. Regarding Politifact, I think narrowly defining an apology as having to include the words "sorry" or "apologize" is an overly technical way of rating the claim, and ignores how people actually use language.


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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

In 2012, Obama apologized for the accidental burning of copies of the Quran, the holy book of Islam. Obama sent the apology in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Officials hoped the formal apology would quell violent reactions against U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

Why would you apologize for that?????
Because civilized people stopped book burning 100 years ago. And he believe US should act civilized I guess.

I still burn my textbooks at the end of the school year they make a nice bonfire along with the sense of never taking those classes again. How rewarding ha ha ha
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If it was an accident, it seems ridiculous that he'd apologize. If it weren't accidental, saying that he does not condone his actions would be fitting. 
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Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

<span style="font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; : rgb240, 240, 240; ">In 2012, Obama </span>apologized<span style="font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; : rgb240, 240, 240; "> for the accidental burning of copies of the Quran, the holy book of Islam. Obama sent the apology in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Officials hoped the formal apology would quell violent reactions against U.S. troops in Afghanistan.</span>

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<span style="font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 16px; : rgb240, 240, 240; ">Why would you apologize for that?????</span>

I'm gonna go with...because he's not an idiot....

What would you want him to say to them, "BRING IT ON!"?
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