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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 16:10 |
thellama73 wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
^ I must be the only person alive who ain't seen Paint Your Wagon
thellama73 wrote:
I just listened to ITCotCK again. I must have heard
that album a hundred times, but I still find it utterly breathtaking fro
start to finish.
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Yep, it's a good album (especially the drumming from the unerring Mr Giles of course) but do you really think the 'roomier' areas of Moonchild are breathtaking? (or would wheezy/bronchial be more accurate?)
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You know, I have never minded the last bit of Moonhild particularly. I thought it was a nice cooldown period ffeore the climax. However, on this particular listen, I realized that it is actually genius. I knew it would happen sooner or later.
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 14 2012 at 00:10 |
dtguitarfan wrote:
Oh sure, I realize the album's importance as something that LED to Progressive Rock. Just like there are Jazz albums you can point to that LED to Rock and Roll. But I don't see how that album, by itself, would qualify as Progressive Rock. By itself, it's a Psychedelic band jamming out.
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The relationship between a single original prog record (that obviously combines elements of classical music, jazz, folk, and psych-rock) and the whole of prog genre is no analogy to the relationship between two distant genres like jazz and rock-n'-roll. Plus, I really don't remember the band jamming out on the title track or jamming throughout "I Talk to the Wind".
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 14 2012 at 00:13
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Sagichim
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Posted: October 14 2012 at 01:37 |
dtguitarfan wrote:
it's pleasant stuff, but nothing groundbreaking. I personally don't see how it even qualifies as Progressive - if that's Progressive, then any jam band should be on here, because to me it sounds like that's all they are doing: jamming out. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that, but I don't see how it qualifies as such an important Progressive work.
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Then you'll have to check the progressive rock definitions. That might help you understand.
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giselle
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Posted: October 14 2012 at 06:48 |
What this post illustrates yet again is that our music is such a personal and powerful force within us that we are completely hopeless and ill-qualified to judge what is good and bad. We only quantify each piece against our own personal prejudice. It's all purely personal taste and nothing at all to do with quality. We are all musical idiots.
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progbassist
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Posted: October 15 2012 at 14:40 |
Carl Palmer
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zoviet
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Posted: October 17 2012 at 08:35 |
John mcentire of tortoise.
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Smurph
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Posted: October 17 2012 at 09:06 |
Lol wut
Itcotck is just jamming?
Did you even listen to the opening track?
Jesus one of the most priggish Songs ever written
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ProgDrummerTony
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Posted: October 20 2012 at 16:37 |
Mike Portnoy is, in my opinion, the closest to the "factually" greatest drummer of all time. He shows the right balance of technique, emotion, and humor in his drumming and music-making. Really smart guy too.
Edited by ProgDrummerTony - October 20 2012 at 16:37
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Andy Webb
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Posted: October 20 2012 at 16:47 |
ProgDrummerTony wrote:
Mike Portnoy is, in my opinion, the closest to the "factually" greatest drummer of all time. He shows the right balance of technique, emotion, and humor in his drumming and music-making. Really smart guy too. |
Sad thing is he's a complete and total jerk.
Him or Gavin I would agree with.
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 20 2012 at 16:52 |
ProgDrummerTony wrote:
Mike Portnoy is, in my opinion, the closest to the "factually" greatest drummer of all time. He shows the right balance of technique, emotion, and humor in his drumming and music-making. Really smart guy too. |
I agree with everything you just said, but it's just too bad his OCD/control freak attitude gets the better of him ultimately leading to real poor decision to leave DREAM THEATER. Not so smart there, but because of his strong personality it's actually been better for Dream Theater anyway. A Dramatic Turn of events indeed was a solid album and the best effort since 6 degrees. I just hope that Mike Portnoy gets affiliated with something I like cause Adrenaline Mob is not working for me.
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steve j
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Posted: October 21 2012 at 16:09 |
I haven't heard Mangini, but I have heard Portnoy a number of times. I must admit that Portnoy's drumming is quite amazing, his timing immaculate. Its a shame he left DT, but I guess he is now free to put his trademark on lots of albums.
Who is the best? - I don't know I am not qualified to say.
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 21 2012 at 16:12 |
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Who is the best? - I don't know I am not qualified to say. |
Nobody is my friend.
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Ytse_Jam
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Posted: October 21 2012 at 16:54 |
steve j wrote:
Its a shame he left DT, but I guess he is now free to put his trademark on lots of albums.
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I don't think playing with DT was limiting his freedom of playing with other bands. Take Transatlantic of Neal Morse's solo, for example.
BTW, Portnoy is doing a tour with Sheenan, McAlpine and Sherinian right now. Is someone going to this?
Edited by Ytse_Jam - October 21 2012 at 16:58
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 21 2012 at 19:23 |
zoviet wrote:
John mcentire of tortoise.
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yeah he's great
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progger7
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Posted: October 21 2012 at 23:36 |
Gavin Harisson.
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Smurph
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Posted: October 22 2012 at 01:56 |
Sorry but I watched some young kid hand portnoy his ass in a competition.
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javier0889
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Posted: October 22 2012 at 12:07 |
Marco Minnemann is the best drummer ever for me. He's a nice guy, and apparently he likes to drink lots of beer (at least when he played in my town with Steven Wilson I noticed that, ). Plus he wore a Cookie Monster t shirt to the DT audition. It was a good thing that they took Mangini. Minnemann is too cool for DT...
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 22 2012 at 14:50 |
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progger7
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:46 |
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 23 2012 at 10:48 |
Nice. Well, you are not missing a beat then. Enjoy man.
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