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thellama73 
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 Posted: October 12 2012 at 19:27 |
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Everyone knows the (factually) best drummer is Mike Giles. Come on people, it's not even close!
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 12 2012 at 20:34 |
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I Talk to the Wind contains some of the most unparalleled beautiful and melodic drumming ever. Sounds smooth and easy, but caching that vibe and playing with that sort of feel is unbelievably hard.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 12 2012 at 21:12 |
^ and one of the funniest hippie-era lyrics ever, "I talk to the wind, the wind does not hear.." 
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Epignosis
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Posted: October 12 2012 at 21:14 |
 Atavachron wrote:
^ and one of the funniest hippie-era lyrics ever, "I talk to the wind, the wind does not hear.."
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That line always struck me as rather sad. 
But maybe I was comparing it to "When I'm needing a friend, I can talk to the wind," which has (as it's name suggests) a lonely quality, but still has a modicum of hope.
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thellama73
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Posted: October 12 2012 at 21:20 |
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I just listened to ITCotCK again. I must have heard that album a hundred times, but I still find it utterly breathtaking fro start to finish.
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Dean
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 03:30 |
Atavachron wrote:
^ and one of the funniest hippie-era lyrics ever, "I talk to the wind, the wind does not hear.."
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I prefered Clint Eastwood's version... ' The breeze hasn't time to stop, and hear what I say'
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What?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 05:59 |
^ I must be the only person alive who ain't seen Paint Your Wagon
thellama73 wrote:
I just listened to ITCotCK again. I must have heard
that album a hundred times, but I still find it utterly breathtaking fro
start to finish.
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Yep, it's a good album (especially the drumming from the unerring Mr Giles of course) but do you really think the 'roomier' areas of Moonchild are breathtaking? (or would wheezy/bronchial be more accurate?  )
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 08:35 |
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So we're all in the love with the album IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING now!!! Ok.....I can live with that. Epitaph is my favourite track, but the drums aren't very predominate on it, so I think MOONCHILD should take the ranks. Oh god.....the forum still lives!!
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 09:16 |
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I personally don't see what's so special about ItCotCK. I mean, I did go through a phase when I listened to a lot of the psychedelic stuff when I was a young teenager. But now that that is out of my system, I go back to ItCotCK and I get a little bored - I mean, it's pleasant stuff, but nothing groundbreaking. I personally don't see how it even qualifies as Progressive - if that's Progressive, then any jam band should be on here, because to me it sounds like that's all they are doing: jamming out. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that, but I don't see how it qualifies as such an important Progressive work.
Edited by dtguitarfan - October 13 2012 at 09:17
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lazland
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 09:35 |
dtguitarfan wrote:
I personally don't see what's so special about ItCotCK. I mean, I did go through a phase when I listened to a lot of the psychedelic stuff when I was a young teenager. But now that that is out of my system, I go back to ItCotCK and I get a little bored - I mean, it's pleasant stuff, but nothing groundbreaking. I personally don't see how it even qualifies as Progressive - if that's Progressive, then any jam band should be on here, because to me it sounds like that's all they are doing: jamming out. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that, but I don't see how it qualifies as such an important Progressive work.
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Dean
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 09:41 |
...this thread really is the gift that just keeps giving 
Edited by Dean - October 13 2012 at 09:42
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 09:55 |
dtguitarfan wrote:
I personally don't see what's so special about ItCotCK. I mean, I did go through a phase when I listened to a lot of the psychedelic stuff when I was a young teenager. But now that that is out of my system, I go back to ItCotCK and I get a little bored - I mean, it's pleasant stuff, but nothing groundbreaking. I personally don't see how it even qualifies as Progressive - if that's Progressive, then any jam band should be on here, because to me it sounds like that's all they are doing: jamming out. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that, but I don't see how it qualifies as such an important Progressive work.
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Think your only logical when you talk about Dream Theater. Dont know if I agree with ya here. The album is a true staple in the eclectic prog genre, let alone prog itself! I just have the feeling that some classics never die even if you yourself feel that it's gone stale.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 10:00 |
dtguitarfan wrote:
I personally don't see what's so special about ItCotCK. I mean, I did go through a phase when I listened to a lot of the psychedelic stuff when I was a young teenager. But now that that is out of my system, I go back to ItCotCK and I get a little bored - I mean, it's pleasant stuff, but nothing groundbreaking. I personally don't see how it even qualifies as Progressive - if that's Progressive, then any jam band should be on here, because to me it sounds like that's all they are doing: jamming out. Which is fine, nothing wrong with that, but I don't see how it qualifies as such an important Progressive work.
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Christgau, is that you old buddy? It's me, Lester! I've come back for you, Robert!
This is Kasey Kasem with some ol' bullsh*t from the internet. Here's the smash hit 'Giles Just Wanna Have Fun' recorded by Cyndi Lauper from her groundbreaking album 'He's so Fripp-usual', I hope you'll enjoy.
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Horizons
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 10:09 |
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And he says he isn't trolling..
Edited by Horizons - October 13 2012 at 10:16
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 10:17 |
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Oh sure, I realize the album's importance as something that LED to Progressive Rock. Just like there are Jazz albums you can point to that LED to Rock and Roll. But I don't see how that album, by itself, would qualify as Progressive Rock. By itself, it's a Psychedelic band jamming out.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 10:18 |
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^No. It is most definitely a defining Prog Rock album.
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progbethyname
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 11:42 |
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^ yes it is. You know I can understand people taking jazz and just thinking of it as unorganized noise. I get that. The jazz element that Crimson has is quite good and if doesn't sound annoying to me.
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thellama73
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 12:06 |
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resurrection
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 12:59 |
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Still reeling from the concept of FACTUALLY greatest.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 13 2012 at 13:06 |
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