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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2012 at 09:21
Sergio Pérez has been signed by McLaren for the next year. Big time for him!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2012 at 09:26
^That news is a bit old.LOL

But seriously, I think Lewis is making a big mistake. McLaren is surely  the way to a  world championship. And what of Shumacher now? Retirement? A sad end if so but a minor team would also be  awful....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2012 at 09:43
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^That news is a bit old.LOL

But seriously, I think Lewis is making a big mistake. McLaren is surely  the way to a  world championship. And what of Shumacher now? Retirement? A sad end if so but a minor team would also be  awful....

Yeah I know, but i've been away from PA so I wanted to write about it :) and I am also happy with that news :)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2012 at 18:01
So much for the whole "Lewis is McLaren for life" deal eh?

Well certainly a surprise, especially since all the talk was guaranteeing Perez to Ferrari.
Guess that's why it's talk.

Yeah isn't Schumi retiring Snowie? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought this was a 3 year gig and he was leaving after this year?

Anywho, any idea who's taking the Ferrari seat? Is Massa even going?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2012 at 09:44
Blimey, I go away to the Summers End Festival for weekend and it's all change in F1. Hamilton is almost certainly writing off next year for a title tilt and betting on Merc getting it right in 2014 with the new regulations, where engine development will be freeed up and only the works teams will have the newest spec engines at each race, simply because development would be too quick to support the customers with equal machinery, and McLaren is a customer now.

As for Schumi, I haven't seen anything specifically saying what he would be doing now. It was mentioned a month ago that he might end up in a managerial role at Merc, which would be a surprise, or he could move over to the DTM series. Outside chance of him going to another team, though his manager was seen at Singapore having a long, public, chat with the Sauber bosses, who suddenly have a seat free.

As for Perez, excellent move for him, I can see him winning races and being a title challenger next year. Ferrari's insistance that he wasn't ready for a top team (utter rubbish) has probably cost them the best driver on their development scheme. I expect that they'll probably keep Massa now because of there astonishing level of concervatism and lack of imagination, unless they really want Hulkenberg. Talk that they can't see any one else available who would definitely do a better job than Massa just shows they have their eyes shut. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2012 at 18:50
NICO! Damn it Ferrari take Nico! He's earned his due. 6 years under his belt by seasons end, has proven to be consistent and quick when in good equipment, I really think he's deserving of a better ride.

Which IMO is a conservative position, if they wanna take some young blood...now that Perez is out what about Kam? Hulkenberg would be a risky but probably good choice as well. What about Grosjean? Di Resta? All are young drivers who I think have shown at least enough speed to warrant a pick.
Ferrari's mindset here really is baffling!


Anyone think part of Hami's move is leftover bad blood from 2011? Was there even any real bad blood? I said it then, it's near impossible to have two #1s.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2012 at 18:56
Oh sh*t, imagine Kimi to Ferrari!
I would pretty much be in heaven with my favorite 2 drivers there, and he has more than proven himself. I believe he has one more year with Lotus. Maybe they use Massa as another year of seat filler until they bring Kimi on board?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 03:11
Well, all this is certainly news to me (living on the side of the atlantic where F1 doesn't exist). Surprising news to me at least. Guess they finally had it with his antics? Either way, great step up for Perez. Wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't think he doesn't deserve it. Hope he does well with the opportunity for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 03:13
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Blimey, I go away to the Summers End Festival for weekend and it's all change in F1. Hamilton is almost certainly writing off next year for a title tilt and betting on Merc getting it right in 2014 with the new regulations, where engine development will be freeed up and only the works teams will have the newest spec engines at each race, simply because development would be too quick to support the customers with equal machinery, and McLaren is a customer now.

As for Schumi, I haven't seen anything specifically saying what he would be doing now. It was mentioned a month ago that he might end up in a managerial role at Merc, which would be a surprise, or he could move over to the DTM series. Outside chance of him going to another team, though his manager was seen at Singapore having a long, public, chat with the Sauber bosses, who suddenly have a seat free.

As for Perez, excellent move for him, I can see him winning races and being a title challenger next year. Ferrari's insistance that he wasn't ready for a top team (utter rubbish) has probably cost them the best driver on their development scheme. I expect that they'll probably keep Massa now because of there astonishing level of concervatism and lack of imagination, unless they really want Hulkenberg. Talk that they can't see any one else available who would definitely do a better job than Massa just shows they have their eyes shut. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 09:06
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Well, all this is certainly news to me (living on the side of the atlantic where F1 doesn't exist). Surprising news to me at least. Guess they finally had it with his antics? Either way, great step up for Perez. Wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't think he doesn't deserve it. Hope he does well with the opportunity for sure.

No, McLaren wanted to keep him and offered a lot of money (I've seen £20 million a year mentioned). It seems that Hamilton just wanted to get out of the team where he grew up, leave home effectively.

It's also known that his management, Simon Fullers XIX Entertainment, were pushing hard to have him sign for Mercedes because he has a lot more freedom with the potential for personal sponsorship deals and to develop the "Hamilton Brand", simply because they could make a mint off him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 09:10
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

NICO! Damn it Ferrari take Nico! He's earned his due. 6 years under his belt by seasons end, has proven to be consistent and quick when in good equipment, I really think he's deserving of a better ride.

Which IMO is a conservative position, if they wanna take some young blood...now that Perez is out what about Kam? Hulkenberg would be a risky but probably good choice as well. What about Grosjean? Di Resta? All are young drivers who I think have shown at least enough speed to warrant a pick.
Ferrari's mindset here really is baffling!


Anyone think part of Hami's move is leftover bad blood from 2011? Was there even any real bad blood? I said it then, it's near impossible to have two #1s.

Rosberg? He signed a long term contract with Merc last year/ early this year.

The problem with Ferrari it seems is the continued rumours that Vettel has an option with them for 2014 to line up next to Alonso. I've read that Di Resta was in talks to replace Massa earlier this year but the problem is that there's only a 1 year contract being offered, and that applies to anybody else as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 11:19
Damn, and checking F1 info always slips my mind, as MWH said we get zilch news here. I recall 3 F1 headlines in the 9 years I've been watching.
 
I do like Di Resta, shame he seems shut out as well. Yeah, it has to be they have someone in mind, Vettel I guess, and are just filling the seat until that time. Why else would they offer 1 year deals and not pursue upcoming drivers?
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well guess Massa is the benefactor of all this, he probably has another ride for 2013 now. Crazy it's already 6 years.
I'm at work right now so if any of you good souls can find this out: I wonder who are the most expereicned Ferrari drivers? Massa must be creeping up there by now?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2012 at 15:56
Off the top of my head I'd say Schumacher (96-06), Barrichello (00-05), Massa (06-12), Jean Alesi (91-95), Gerhard Berger (87-89, 93-5), Gilles Viellneuve (78-82).

Enzo Ferrari was notoriously prickly to deal with and drivers would tend to only spend a few years there before either being fired or getting fed up and leaving. Of course there were other favorites like Alberto Ascari, Wolgang von Trips and Viellneuve himself, that died behind the wheel of a Ferrari before they need to leave turned up (though Viellneuve would likely have left at the end of the 82 season anyway, and probably would have taken the title with him to McLaren).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2012 at 19:20
Yeah I did notice Ferrari tends to have brief stints, which is why I was drawing a blank (besides Schumi and Rubens) for long tenured ones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 07:20
Schumacher has officially anounced he will retire, again, at the end of the year today.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 14:29
No real surprise given the other news.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2012 at 22:11
I think he's proven whatever he wanted to prove?
Still time to grab one final win though!

Suzuka always a great track, excited. Final quarter of the season coming up, this is it gents. Champs are made when the pressure is on...things are still so close can anyone turn it on and seal the deal?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2012 at 06:26
Webber fastest this morning ahead of Hamilton and Vettel, looks like it's Red Bull vs McLaren again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2012 at 08:21
Good pole from Vettel, nobody was going to beat him. Shame about Button's penalty, he was the closest one to getting on terms with the Red Bulls today. Excellent job by Kobayashi, 3rd on the grid is the highest ever starting position in Japan for a Japanese driver, and I reckon he could stay there in the race.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2012 at 10:13
Pos. No. Driver Constructor Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Grid
1 1 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:32.608 1:31.501 1:30.839 1
2 2 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:32.951 1:31.950 1:31.090 2
3 3 United Kingdom Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.077 1:31.772 1:31.290 81
4 14 Japan Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:32.042 1:31.886 1:31.700 3
5 10 France Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:32.029 1:31.968 1:31.898 4
6 15 Mexico Sergio Pérez Sauber-Ferrari 1:32.147 1:32.169 1:32.022 5
7 5 Spain Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:32.459 1:31.833 1:32.114 6
8 9 Finland Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:32.221 1:31.826 1:32.208 7
9 4 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:33.061 1:32.121 1:32.327 9
10 12 Germany Nico Hülkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:32.828 1:32.272 no time 151
11 6 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:32.946 1:32.293
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12 11 United Kingdom Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:32.898 1:32.327
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13 7 Germany Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:33.349 1:32.469
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14 18 Venezuela Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:32.834 1:32.512
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15 8 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:33.015 1:32.625
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16 16 Australia Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:33.059 1:32.954
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17 17 France Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:33.370 1:33.368
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18 19 Brazil Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:33.405

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19 20 Finland Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:34.657

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20 24 Germany Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:35.213

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21 22 Spain Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:35.385

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22 25 France Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:35.429

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23 21 Russia Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:35.432

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24 23 India Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:36.734

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