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Todd ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RPI / Heavy Prog Team Joined: December 19 2007 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
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I'm sure they saw the success some of the others have had and thought they could go for some of that! I would guess they will follow the same formula--play the old stuff, see how it goes, and start to work on new material if things go well.
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andrea ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2071 |
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They're working on a live show featuring Zarathustra + a new album...
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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Thanks for the info, Andrea!
Todd, sounds good! I think there's been several examples recently where an older Italian band has put out a new album and it's lived up to the same standard as their older work. The last Delerium album was pretty top-notch! |
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Todd ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RPI / Heavy Prog Team Joined: December 19 2007 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
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^ No doubt about it, ABB! I think this new (old) Alphataurus album will be something special. The year has been a bit down for RPI, so maybe Alphataurus can change that. Another reunion favorite of mine is Latte e Miele's new album, similar in style to Delirium's.
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progbethyname ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7859 |
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Ennio Morricone. Now there is an artist with Italian blood.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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Hey Todd, I haven't actually heard the Latte e Miele one! But it wasn't until I thought about your comment about this year being a little disappointing for Italian releases when I realised that all the favourite ones I've heard during this year, such as Gran Turismo Veloce and Moogg, are all from 2011!
Now I'm scratching my head trying to think of any from this actual year I've heard.... ![]() |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17188 |
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2012 so far seems light compared to some of the awesome previous RPI years but there's still some important titles to check out:
![]() Ornithos, Il Bacio Della Medusa, Stefano Testa, L'Estate San Martino, Hostsonaten, Maurizio di Tollo, Mangala VAllis, Vieux Carre, Syndone, Court, L'Ombra della sera, Ianva, Profusion, Daal, Barock, Claudio Milano, Mogodor, Luca Sherani, Stereokimono, Christiano Roversi, Gatto Marte, Il Maniscalco Modestro, Mudway, and probably a few more.... |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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Oh, of course! The `L'Ombra della sera' one was quite good! A nice companion album to Morte Macabre, etc. I was waiting for the promised vinyl LP edition that so far (unless I missed it!) doesn't seem to have eventuated?!
Gatto Marte was kind of nice too! Either way, thanks, Finnforest, seems I have a ton of recommendations to look in to! ![]() |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17188 |
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No prob....just an informational list....not all of those are recommendations. I'm thinking of doing a list of my favorite obscure RPI titles.....someday....time is hard to find!
Nice to see so many regulars and new faces in the Den!! I love it that RPI is so beloved these days. ![]() |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 12 2011 Location: Melb, Australia Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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Finnforest, forgot to mention from that list you supplied -
I've got `L’ESTATE DI SAN MARTINO - TALSETE DI MARSANTINO' waiting to go in my next order from Syn-phonic Records. I just go through Greg Walker's latest updates and take a chance on titles that seem to be promising! Would you recommend that one?! Since the start of this year, I've bought the following Italian albums: Catafalchi Del Cyber - Benediktus...(a few average vocals but terrific album! Lots of great ideas!) Le Orme - La Via Della Seta (Good quality album, but the replacement vocals are a little pompous and stuffy?) Paolo Sini and Friends - Castles (Haven't listened to it enough yet, sounds a little hit and miss in places, but mostly very good) Murple - S/T - I think it was self-titled?! Reliable and very listenable without being a total knockout, nice album! and Panna Fredda - Uno (taken a few spins, but love it!) Opinions on any of them are welcome! ![]() |
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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The Panna Fredda 's album is fantastic, especially the long song : Il vento, la luna e pulcini blu, with harpsichord..
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17188 |
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Estate is a wonderful album if you are partial to the "pretty" side of Italian prog....though it does rock more than Hostsonaten, it is one of those refined and mature albums....so it just depends if you like that kind of RPI as opposed to the crazy and off the wall side....
Just finished playing one of my most obscure favorites....I love this little Dalton spin-off....so warm, so odd, traditional song based RPI but with a twist of lemon....from the deepest parts of the bench come some of my favorite guilty pleasures. It is hard to "recommend" people buy something like this....because I think it will appeal to only some, but if you are one who likes it, it is great!
Paciana Story Dalton Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
Finnforest
![]() "Paciana Story" may be called an "opera" on the front but really the music is folk-rock with light prog touches. It was a conceptual work based on the life of a Robin Hood type brigand from the Bergamo area named Pacin Paciana (1773-1806). Legend has it this man stole from the rich and gave to the poor (kinda the opposite concept of today's Capitalism) going so far as to leave food for them in mountain shelters. He apparently is still something of a folk hero in the Bergamo area to this day representing rebellion against authority. The "pop opera" was even transformed into a theatrical presentation with actors and musicians touring theatres for a few years. The album itself was recorded in the studio of Raminghi's Franco Mussita and privately pressed. It was an offshoot project from Dalton written by keyboardist Temi Reduzzi and featuring their guitarist Aronne Cereda. Reduzzi apparently left Dalton between their first and second albums along with their flautist while Cereda appears on both Dalton albums (Argitari and Paciana Story both came out in 1975). The Dalton history is pretty hard to follow. Musically "Paciana Story" is simply wonderful albeit for a pretty limited audience. It is a mixture of traditional Italian folk music and melodies with light rock, pop, and some marginally prog treatments. It is tailor made for those with a love for Italian folk-rock. As often happens with these rarities the first time I played it I wondered what the hell I just spend $20 bucks on! But does this ever weave its way into your heart after a few plays! Like many of these projects it was more of a musicians collective than a rock band per se and the recording definitely has the "home-made" feel to it. Loose, warm, personal, and festive, much of it plays like party music that I hear frequently blasted by Mexican immigrants in our working class neighborhood. Lots of gregarious vocals accompanied by acoustic guitars, bass, flutes, piano, trumpet, sax, and percussion. The proggier touches come courtesy of the piano, occasional mellotron washes, and swirly brass effects-again there are what seem like speed variances as you listen, and I just can't be sure whether these are intentional for effect, or actual sound problems. Either way, they only enhance the charm factor for me personally. "Tema Conduttore" features a somewhat cheesy synth earworm part that is reprised at the end of the last song adding to the concept feel, you'll laugh at it but it will stay in your head for days afterwards. "Tema D'Amore" is another highlight with beautiful piano and mellotron, lovely male/female vocals, trumpet, and dreamy atmospherics. "Alla Moda" and "Licenziamento" both feature some '60s sounding trippy psych guitar leads. "Rapimento" is pure wide-eyed sing-along folk music. The closer "Salto Dal Ponte" is actually some pretty dramatic Ital-prog though not loud or harsh certainly. Musicianship throughout is not flashy but it is quite good nonetheless. All in all this is a wonderful little album of music that is quite moving to me even if its interest may be limited to the Italian prog/folk fan community. Another huge thanks to AMS/BTF for issuing this rarity in fine gatefold mini-lp sleeve format. It features remastered sound, nice booklet, gorgeous cover painting, and inside a drawing of Pacin and photo of the mountains he adventured in. |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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As you say, Jim, this is one of these albums that you cannot really recommend, but which are recommended
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17188 |
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I recommend it but it's not recommended! Exactly!
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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When suddenly the business of reviewer becomes a risky business !
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17188 |
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I do think about that sometimes. I have pretty weird taste. So I tend to rate obscure weird stuff higher and am less enamored by more polished, "proper" prog bands.....so I often wonder if people think I"m insane when they buy stuff I gush about....like "what the hell is he smokin? I want my money back!"
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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So I'm insane too. Have you read Conrad ? Lord Jim ? Everyone deserves a second chance, even the strangest music.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17188 |
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Conrad....I don't think so....doesn't ring a bell.
Listening to some Hopo at the moment......early 80s RPI ![]() Edited by Finnforest - September 22 2012 at 18:38 |
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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Yes. I know this album "Senti" (1982) by Mats. They've recorded another one 10 years later.
Only vinyl I think.
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hellogoodbye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP member Joined: August 29 2011 Location: Troy Status: Offline Points: 7251 |
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HOPO's ALBUMS : 1982 and 1991
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