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Posted: December 12 2010 at 02:07

ELP has to be one of the genre-defining bands.

Edited by resurrection - December 12 2010 at 02:14

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Posted: December 12 2010 at 02:12

Cactus Choir wrote:

At the top of their game (1970-73) they were creative and hugely exciting. They did more to popularise prog and open up opportunities for similar bands than any other group IMO. They bridged the gap between heavy rock - Zep, Purple etc - and prog like no-one else, having the power and aggression of the former and the variety and complexity of the latter. Quite a few on here don't like them but their importance to the genre is not in doubt.

Absolutely agree with this. I don't personally like their music all that much, but I don't think this point can be convincingly argued against.

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Posted: December 12 2010 at 02:55

ELP are one of the greatest Prog Pioneers of the century!

On DVD I recommend Isle of Wight concert

From The Beginning

and Live at Montreux

wonderful performances!

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Posted: December 12 2010 at 22:45

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

ELP are one of the greatest Prog Pioneers of the century!

On DVD I recommend Isle of Wight concert

From The Beginning

and Live at Montreux

wonderful performances!

Is it From The Beginning, or Beyond the Beginning?

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Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:04

Beyond the Beginning is a 5 CD+ 1DVD set that includes the Manticore documentary from 1973.

From The Beginning is a 2 DVD set including a decent chunk of California Jam.

None of ELP's DVD's are that good in truth although there are a lot out there. Either the quality is lacking or the performances do not capture them at their best.

The Isle of Wight DVD is only about 10 minutes of live performance with the rest mainly footgage of the event like overhead shots of blokes peeing

. The BBC switched the cameras off early for reasons that completely escape me.

Edited by richardh - December 13 2010 at 02:07

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Posted: December 13 2010 at 02:45

richardh wrote:

Beyond the Beginning is a 5 CD+ 1DVD set that includes the Manticore documentary from 1973.

From The Beginning is a 2 DVD set including a decent chunk of California Jam.

I have a 2 dvd set called Beyond The Beginning

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Posted: December 13 2010 at 14:50

Moogtron III wrote:

richardh wrote:

Beyond the Beginning is a 5 CD+ 1DVD set that includes the Manticore documentary from 1973.

From The Beginning is a 2 DVD set including a decent chunk of California Jam.

I have a 2 dvd set called Beyond The Beginning

Yep sorry I got them the wrong way round. Hopefully there won't be a rarites set called 'In the Beginning'.

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Posted: December 13 2010 at 18:00

in the last year, i bought the ELP dvds Pictures At An Exhibition Special Edition,Beyond The Beginning, Live at Montreux,and one called Emerson,Lake and Palmer-C'est La Vie which features some tracks recorded in Montreal in the seventies and other things on other dvds
i love every minute of every one of them!
saw the band only once in Ottawa, Canada in January of 1993, and will never forget it

Edited by presdoug - December 13 2010 at 18:05

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Posted: December 13 2010 at 18:39

Dellinger wrote:

Is it From The Beginning, or Beyond the Beginning?

I wanna say BEFORE the beginning ... since from that time on, their ego was so big and the waste of electricity was the only way you could tell! ... or listen to John Peel, of course!

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Posted: December 14 2010 at 03:43

One of the best bands in rnr ever. they just deserved to be called the supergroup of the 70s. i think they are very underrated here at PA for their virtue, originality, influence and ideas. By my opinion they have the best keyboard player in prog rock ever, and their lyrics written by sinfield are also among the best in pop music ever.

SMART preachers of our doom
Telling us there is no room.
Not enough for all mankind
And the seas of time are running dry.

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Posted: December 14 2010 at 05:40

Tapfret wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

richardh wrote:

btw Interesting that you write their name without the comma. Something of a bone of contention amongst ELP fans

Can't say I've ever noticed. First time I've ever seen this mentioned. I mean EVER.

I always forget the comma in Jethro, Tull. Geek

Are you ref. to Tull, Jethro 1674-1741

Edited by tamijo - December 14 2010 at 05:43

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 13:08

I believe that ELP fans should really appreciate this:

and

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 14:05

rushfan4 wrote:

I believe that ELP fans should really appreciate this:

and

Great!

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 18:07

At one of our HS assembies, some ensemble played "The Barbarian"--this was in 1975

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 18:28

rdtprog wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

I believe that ELP fans should really appreciate this:

and

Great!

More than great. For a high school band, it's incredible.

Trust me. I know what I'm doing.

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 19:53

Rush77 wrote:

Hey everybody so i was lookin at the site and noticed that ELP is rated pretty low and i was wondering y so im gonna ask everyone who reads this their opinion on this band. Personally i find them to be utterly amazing and one of my fav bands of all time but thats just my opinion plz tell me wat u think about them

The music of Keith Emerson will live on forever and he will take his place among the greats, Mozart, etc...
The kids here who diss ELP will get to watch on the sidelines for the rest of their lives as "their" prog bands like Tool & Radiohead come and go, as musical experimentation without practice, composition and virtuosity will always be popular then forgotten as the new generational sensation takes its place.

ELP music will live on forever as truly great. Nope, not simply my opinion. Just watch it happen.

One can get a PhD in music by studying Keith Emerson's works and his compositions are repeatedly being
performed by orchestras around the world. How can a person who claims to "listen" or appreciate actual music
dismiss that???

ELP is not popular here??? Whatever. My buddy from Boston, Mass. said it best:

"The masses are asses". His words, not mine.

Long live ELP!!!!!

Go out and buy the new 5.1 & 2.0 remixes of ELP "ELP" & "Tarkus"

http://www.amazon.com/Tarkus-Deluxe-Edition-Emerson/dp/B008FPZQRO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346546763&sr=8-1&keywords=elp+tarkus

DVD-Audio & CD set for the price of a CD!!!!!!

Next time I will say what I really think of ELP and the media & pundits who diss them. Wink

"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 20:08

Yes, many of us here on PA are EP supporters, but outside our echo chamber they're pretty much forgotten--what's on the radio? Karn 1st Imp. Pt 2, Lucky Man, and From The Beginning. Sure, they deserve more; there's lots of awesome music. But time has, sadly, passed them by.

And Keith is an amazing musician, but any comparison to a giant like Mozart is just silly.

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 22:11

ELP did bring the genre into the view of the masses in the day and should not go un-noticed for that. Not sure why the "low" or should say lesser than expected ratings are in this forum, most likely the "too commercial" view of them.

I remember the California Jam, which was full of a bunch of classic rock bands (Deep Purple, Eagles, Black Sabbath, etc...), but they were the main event at the end.

They are in my top 10 or so. I love Toccata as it is a based on the "Fourth Movement of Alberto Ginastera's 1st Piano Concerto", simply amazing.

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 22:35

Evolver wrote:

rdtprog wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

I believe that ELP fans should really appreciate this:

and

Great!

More than great. For a high school band, it's incredible.

Holy Cow! They get an "A+". This caused me to log back in to post. The drummer was dead on. EGG-cellent!

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Posted: September 01 2012 at 23:42

Of all the things I've heard from ELP (ELP, Tarkus, and BSS) I really enjoy "Take a Pebble", almost all of Tarkus (except for the sh$%ty "Are You Ready, Eddy"), and almost all of BSS, 4.5/5 (except for that sucker "Benny the Bouncer"). I really should give the first two aforementioned albums a few more listens some time around and then go on to give another shot to Trilogy and Pictures at an Exhibition.