Forum Home Forum Home > Topics not related to music > General discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The Motorsport Thread - 2012
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedThe Motorsport Thread - 2012
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2728293031 40>
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 18:11
Oh. Yeah I missed all of it so I have no idea.
Second place from Sato is awesome!
I like too see the F1ers doing well, which isn't really the caseLOL

Sato was known for his aggressive overtaking!
Back to Top
Man With Hat View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team

Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 20:32
Missed the races but seems Alonso beasted. I'll have to see the incident with Vettel but seems fairly cut and dry based on the comments here. Hard to say anyone but thhe big A is the favorite right now.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Back to Top
Sheavy View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 28 2010
Location: Alabama
Status: Offline
Points: 2866 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2012 at 20:36
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Oh. Yeah I missed all of it so I have no idea.
Second place from Sato is awesome!
I like too see the F1ers doing well, which isn't really the caseLOL

Sato was known for his aggressive overtaking!
 
He reminds me a lot of Tora Takagi.
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2012 at 05:11
^He's faster and better on the technical side of things than Takagi was though, plus I remember that back in his F1 days Takagi never put much effort into learning English, which didnt help him.
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
Sheavy View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 28 2010
Location: Alabama
Status: Offline
Points: 2866 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2012 at 20:52
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^He's faster and better on the technical side of things than Takagi was though, plus I remember that back in his F1 days Takagi never put much effort into learning English, which didnt help him.
 
I haven't seen any of their racing in F1, so I'm just going off their Indycar track record, and neither one was/is too great I feel. But I think Sato being in Bobby Rahal's team is helping him.
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2012 at 05:20
Originally posted by Sheavy Sheavy wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^He's faster and better on the technical side of things than Takagi was though, plus I remember that back in his F1 days Takagi never put much effort into learning English, which didnt help him.
 
I haven't seen any of their racing in F1, so I'm just going off their Indycar track record, and neither one was/is too great I feel. But I think Sato being in Bobby Rahal's team is helping him.

Sato's a pretty strong driver, still the only Japanese to gain a podium in F1 on outright pace rather than through a race of attrition, but there are definitely better driver out there and he seems more crash prone now than when he was in F1.

Takagi raced in 98/99 and was tipped to be a top driver after he demolished his team mate Ricardo Rosset at Tyrrel in his first year (not really saying much, Rosset never belonged anywhere near F1). However, De La Rosa easily beat him at Arrows and it was found that he lacked in technical ability and never made too much effort to learn the English language, which in an English team was always going to hold him back.
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2012 at 19:14
I remember for a decent stretch of time Sato was outperforming Button as his teammate..though I recall Sato was deffmore crash/engine failure prone. The latter could've been indicative of not being good at taking care of equipment.

Needless to say Button is a better driver but still shows something. Sato had some speed.
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2012 at 06:57
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

I remember for a decent stretch of time Sato was outperforming Button as his teammate..though I recall Sato was deffmore crash/engine failure prone. The latter could've been indicative of not being good at taking care of equipment.

Needless to say Button is a better driver but still shows something. Sato had some speed.

There were definitely several races in 2004 (Nurburgring and Indy in particular) where Sato had the upper hand but he really struggled with the difficult 2005 car which is why he was offloaded and Super Aguri was set up for the following year.
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2012 at 06:03
First practice time from Hungary, looks like McLaren at least start the weekend with an advantage.

Pos  Driver                Team                   Time               Laps
 1.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes       1m22.821             30
 2.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes       1m22.922s  + 0.101   24
 3.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari                1m23.397s  + 0.576   24
 4.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes               1m23.628s  + 0.807   29
 5.  Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault          1m23.633s  + 0.812   24
 6.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes               1m23.845s  + 1.024   26
 7.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari                1m23.904s  + 1.083   25
 8.  Kimi Raikkonen        Lotus-Renault          1m23.983s  + 1.162   24
 9.  Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Renault       1m24.152s  + 1.331   24
10.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari         1m24.268s  + 1.447   27
11.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Renault       1m24.300s  + 1.479   23
12.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari         1m24.394s  + 1.573   19
13.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault       1m24.546s  + 1.725   24
14.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes   1m24.559s  + 1.738   22
15.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault       1m24.608s  + 1.787   25
16.  Daniel Ricciardo      Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1m25.354s  + 2.533   25
17.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Ferrari     1m25.559s  + 2.738   27
18.  Jules Bianchi         Force India-Mercedes   1m25.715s  + 2.894   26
19.  Vitaly Petrov         Caterham-Renault       1m26.440s  + 3.619   27
20.  Charles Pic           Marussia-Cosworth      1m26.705s  + 3.884   23
21.  Heikki Kovalainen     Caterham-Renault       1m26.755s  + 3.934   28
22.  Timo Glock            Marussia-Cosworth      1m27.015s  + 4.194   24
23.  Pedro de la Rosa      HRT-Cosworth           1m27.101s  + 4.280   21
24.  Dani Clos             HRT-Cosworth           1m28.176s  + 5.355   24
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2012 at 10:04
Practice two times, all set in the first half before a heavy shower came.

Pos  Driver                Team                  Time              Laps
 1.  Lewis Hamilton        McLaren-Mercedes      1m21.995            20
 2.  Kimi Raikkonen        Lotus-Renault         1m22.180s  + 0.185  20
 3.  Bruno Senna           Williams-Renault      1m22.253s  + 0.258  33
 4.  Felipe Massa          Ferrari               1m22.417s  + 0.422  28
 5.  Fernando Alonso       Ferrari               1m22.582s  + 0.587  22
 6.  Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes      1m22.747s  + 0.752  17
 7.  Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes  1m22.794s  + 0.799  23
 8.  Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault      1m22.824s  + 0.829  18
 9.  Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault         1m22.922s  + 0.927  12
10.  Michael Schumacher    Mercedes              1m23.160s  + 1.165  19
11.  Nico Rosberg          Mercedes              1m23.164s  + 1.169  28
12.  Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Renault      1m23.337s  + 1.342  26
13.  Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes  1m23.713s  + 1.718  25
14.  Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault      1m23.814s  + 1.819  17
15.  Kamui Kobayashi       Sauber-Ferrari        1m23.841s  + 1.846  28
16.  Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m24.328s  + 2.333  23
17.  Daniel Ricciardo      Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m24.345s  + 2.350  27
18.  Sergio Perez          Sauber-Ferrari        1m24.623s  + 2.628  22
19.  Vitaly Petrov         Caterham-Renault      1m24.823s  + 2.828  28
20.  Heikki Kovalainen     Caterham-Renault      1m25.220s  + 3.225  28
21.  Timo Glock            Marussia-Cosworth     1m27.104s  + 5.109  27
22.  Pedro de la Rosa      HRT-Cosworth          1m27.106s  + 5.111  18
23.  Charles Pic           Marussia-Cosworth     1m27.185s  + 5.190  22
24.  Narain Karthikeyan    HRT-Cosworth          1m27.822s  + 5.827  20



Edited by sleeper - July 27 2012 at 10:04
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
Man With Hat View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team

Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2012 at 16:20
Yay. For some reason I've always like Hungary.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2012 at 18:32
Its a good drivers track, even if it doesnt always produce the best racing.

Fun fact, there have only ever been 2 wet Hungarian GP in its 26 year history, and Buttons won them both. At the moment it looks like there's a 50/50 chance for rain on Sunday.
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
Gerinski View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 10 2010
Location: Barcelona Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 5154 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2012 at 08:11
Great 2nd grid position for Grosjean, Hamilton seems to have the edge though.
Alonso won't have it easy this time, he's struggling and it's a rather difficult circuit for overtaking.


Edited by Gerinski - July 28 2012 at 08:11
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2012 at 12:49
Wow, neither Mercedes in the top 10, they look to be in trouble this time. Excellent lap from Hamilton, I think he'll win tomorrow unless it rains.
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2012 at 14:22
So McLaren has chosen to stop sucking lol
Pos. No. Driver Constructor Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Grid
1 Lewis Hamilton United Kingdom McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.794 1:21.060 1:20.953 1
2 Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1:22.755 1:21.657 1:21.366 2
3 Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:22.948 1:21.407 1:21.416 3
4 Jenson Button United Kingdom McLaren-Mercedes 1:22.028 1:21.618 1:21.583 4
5 Kimi Räikkönen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:22.234 1:21.583 1:21.730 5
6 Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:22.095 1:21.598 1:21.844 6
7 Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:22.203 1:21.534 1:21.900 7
8 Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1:22.475 1:21.504 1:21.939 8
9 Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1:22.271 1:21.697 1:22.343 9
10 Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:22.176 1:21.653 1:22.847 10
11 Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:22.829 1:21.715
11
12 Paul Di Resta United Kingdom Force India-Mercedes 1:21.912 1:21.813
12
13 Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes 1:22.079 1:21.895
13
14 Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:22.110 1:21.895
14
15 Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:22.801 1:22.300
15
16 Jean-Éric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:22.799 1:22.380
16
17 Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes 1:22.436 1:22.723
17
18 Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:23.250

18
19 Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1:23.576

19
20 Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1:24.167

20
21 Charles Pic France Marussia-Cosworth 1:25.244

21
22 Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 1:25.476

22
23 Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1:25.916

23
24 Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:26.178

24
107% time: 1:27.519


Excellent run for Grosjean indeed!
Back to Top
Man With Hat View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team

Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2012 at 15:33
Go go Grosjean!
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Back to Top
Gerinski View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 10 2010
Location: Barcelona Spain
Status: Offline
Points: 5154 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2012 at 03:14
MotoGP Laguna Seca Qualifying results. 
 
As ususal Lorenzo and the 2 Repsol Hondas are one step ahead of the rest and will battle for the win, and there should be an interesting fight in the second group.
 
I think Pedrosa can make it difficult for Lorenzo and Stoner here, he's only 3rd on the grid but it's the kind of track that suits his riding style. In previous years he often had to race injured at Laguna but this year he is in good shape.
 


Edited by Gerinski - July 29 2012 at 03:17
Back to Top
Man With Hat View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team

Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2012 at 03:20
I'll probably be watching the olympics, so I won't get to watch Laguna. Tongue  But hopefully they will replay it in the middle of the night. Motorcycle racing is usually on then anyway.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2012 at 05:37
I heard it was foggy for the early practice sessions at Laguna. That's one track that I just can't imagine being foggy!
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

Back to Top
JJLehto View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Status: Offline
Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2012 at 10:30
Congrats to Lewis.
Both Lotus cars on podium, superb.

No real shockers in the points results.
Alonso leads by 40 still and 8 points between 2nd and 5th. Awesome.

Though finally some stability seems to be forming. Top 4 are all in contention and Kimi can't be ruled out though it seems unlikely. Given his position and strong results Alonso is the clear frontrunner. Big smile
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 2728293031 40>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.203 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.