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    Posted: July 05 2012 at 18:19
Here's examples of why Phish are a true prog band. Listen to these songs and tell me they're not proggy.













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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2012 at 20:25
Did anyone listen? Does anybody have any opinions?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2012 at 20:28
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Here's examples of why Phish are a true prog band. Listen to these songs and tell me they're not proggy.















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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2012 at 20:39
Your username leaves me feeling like you didn't actually listen to the songs...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2012 at 21:03
I got into Phish in the first place because of their prog appeal (even more pronounced in their early days).  This was before the acquired the "jam band" tag, which unfortunately conjures images (to some people) of stoned hippies in parking lots rather than the actual music at hand.  But this group composed (yes, composed) some very complex epics and drew from many different musical traditions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2012 at 05:53
Yes, I listened. I've listened to these and other Phish material, as a cousin of mine has tried for years to get me into them. While these songs would be considered prog, they just don't have the appeal to me. The band play well, but I don't care for the vocals and the songs just don't do anything for me.

 For me, not speaking for any one else, it's prog, but boring prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2012 at 09:35
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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Your username leaves me feeling like you didn't actually listen to the songs...
 
I listenes to them but I was willing to joke. But seriously they are proggy but I don't think they are real prog. They fit as prog related.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2012 at 13:50
I can't hear through the patchouli and nitrous.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2012 at 14:19
The sound like an eclectic prog band to me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2012 at 16:20
I neither support no oppose their inclusion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2012 at 20:49
I would consider Phish to be prog. They are like Umphrey's McGee to me. Besides, I really like them either way, just like I really like the Grateful Dead, regardless of their genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2012 at 06:02
I don't know this band and I've listened. The examples above sound proggy to me. But I need to listen to full albums to decide, if their composition style as a whole is proggy, and if these examples are not only exceptions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2012 at 09:39
Its prog allright!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2012 at 11:12
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

I don't know this band and I've listened. The examples above sound proggy to me. But I need to listen to full albums to decide, if their composition style as a whole is proggy, and if these examples are not only exceptions.


I would suggest their album "Lawn Boy".

or "Junta"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2012 at 10:57
Junta would be by fat the most prog album they have.  Otherwise, you can check out "time turns elastic", one of the new prog type songs.  Youll like it. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2012 at 03:50
I really dig Phish. I could see a case being made for them being prog-ish, but not a full on prog band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:38
"Junta" is definitely prog rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2012 at 12:41
"Junta" doesn't even really "jam" that much, if that's what keeps people from calling it prog.  The lion's share of Junta is very highly composed, even the long tracks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2012 at 13:35
they don't really jam much at all on their studio albums, especially the first 4-5 albums which are their most prog albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2012 at 11:28
They're a great band & well known for the huge number of live albums available, but I much prefer the studio ones (especially Junta & Rift); to me personally, they are a prog band without doubt, but I do find their live jams, just a tad, well... boring

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