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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 09 2012 at 01:52 |
smartpatrol wrote:
About, I don't know, a year. Haven't been into ELP for a while. |
Erm...ain't your avatar a bit ironic methinks?
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tamijo
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Posted: June 09 2012 at 02:34 |
All of it 15+ years , if i ever did listen to it all Nerver was into ELP.
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smartpatrol
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Posted: June 09 2012 at 03:47 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
About, I don't know, a year. Haven't been into ELP for a while. |
Erm...ain't your avatar a bit ironic methinks?
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smartpatrol
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Posted: June 09 2012 at 03:47 |
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JS19
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Posted: June 09 2012 at 05:30 |
Just heard it for the first time. What's all the fuss about?
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 09 2012 at 05:50 |
^ 41 years ago it got to Number 1 in the UK album charts which reinforced the fleeting hope that there was a time in history where a discerning demographic might actually have a say in what is popular. Imagine a hierarchical system of merit that correlates to your own value judgements i.e. the content of PA - ain't that exciting? We'll soon get you up to speed laddie .
Edited by ExittheLemming - June 09 2012 at 15:23
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dennismoore
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Posted: June 10 2012 at 10:53 |
lazland wrote:
Around about 6th November 1979.
Never could get into ELP. Perhaps it is time for a re-evaluation |
Not sine 1979??? Simply unbelievable.Since you have upgraded your avatar to a higher level primate on the evolution scale, perhaps you could elevate your listening abilities to include one of the top 5 musical compositions of the twentieth century??? Ok, that was a bit of a slam at one of my favorite overseas proggers.... Seriously... What has stopped you about ELP or Tarkus in particular? Is it all the keyboards and no guitar? Keith's composition of Tarkus is so magnificent and brilliant yet accessible it is frankly humbling. I have the sheet music for Tarkus and I enjoy marveling at his chord progressions during Eruption almost as much as I enjoy listening to it!. And I am no master musician for sure. For me, I listened to Welcome Back Tarkus 5 months ago, but I have not been playing music much as I have been building stuff... So I would listen more frequently than that in general... Can't wait until this July when the original Tarkus record comes out in the 5.1 Steven Wilson mix.
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FromAbove
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Posted: June 10 2012 at 11:02 |
I heard it for the first time on last.fm and that was the last time I have listened to it.
Checking it it says I listened to it....Hey, it says I've listened to it twice... that's odd. Most recently it was March 11, 2011, but I don't even remember listening to it then. Actually, yeah... I do remember listening to it then, but I think I skipped before finishing. So the last time I full listened to it would be August 23, 2010... which, quite frankly I still can't remember any portion of it.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 10 2012 at 11:39 |
I played three tracks off the album back in January according to WinAmp, but I may have listened to it on something else. I was doing the big rotation for about two years so I at least listened to the title track within that time.
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 10 2012 at 11:40
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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lazland
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Posted: June 10 2012 at 12:09 |
dennismoore wrote:
lazland wrote:
Around about 6th November 1979.
Never could get into ELP. Perhaps it is time for a re-evaluation |
Not sine 1979??? Simply unbelievable.
Seriously... What has stopped you about ELP or Tarkus in particular? Is it all the keyboards and no guitar?
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It might have been after 1979. It was a (rather poor) attempt on my part at humour.
Having said that, no I wasn't a big fan, and still am not.
Why?? Well, for the absolutely simple reason that I found them so over the top and bombastic, in other words for the very same reasons why so many people loved them
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dennismoore
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 09:39 |
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"Yeah, people are unhappy about that - but you know what, it's still Yes." - Chris Squire
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infandous
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 13:22 |
You know, I'm always stunned when prog fans suggest that "bombastic" and "pretentious" are somehow negative in music. Prog is nothing, if not bombastic and pretentious. I mean really, that was the whole point!!! To move rock music beyond the blues framework it was born out of. Frankly, I've always loved ELP for those traits. I don't listen to them regularly anymore (did plenty of that in the 90's), but I still pull out an album or two ever couple years and marvel at how excellent it all still sounds. Tarkus was always my favorite, and I love the "B" side.......though not as much as the title suite, to be sure.
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bb1319
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 13:38 |
Maybe 3 months ago, and I hardly ever listen to the B side. I've heard the B side maybe three times total and thought it was utter garbage. The title track is great, though. I'm not really a huge ELP person, either.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 13:47 |
Side 2
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FromAbove
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 13:52 |
bb1319 wrote:
Maybe 3 months ago, and I hardly ever listen to the B side. I've heard the B side maybe three times total and thought it was utter garbage. |
I still haven't heard anything from the second side except for Infinite Space (Conclusion), and I still can't remember it. Maybe I should even dare to listen to that Side 2.
Edited by FromAbove - June 11 2012 at 13:52
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 13:55 |
I really like side 2. But then, I am what one calls an "ELP fan".
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richardh
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 14:08 |
I always thought side two of Tarkus was 'Plan B'. Would the world accept a keyboard driven side long peice based on a non existent creature that looked like an armadillo crossed with a first world war tank? If not we have some fun stuff , a bit of rock n roll and a very important song about religion that should please the hippies that havn't yet expired.
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FromAbove
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 14:09 |
Then I haven't listened enough to ELP to cast away side 2. I'll listen to it once I get my hands on the record.
richardh wrote:
I always thought side two of Tarkus was 'Plan B'. Would the world accept a keyboard driven side long peice based on a non existent creature that looked like an armadillo crossed with a first world war tank? If not we have some fun stuff , a bit of rock n roll and a very important song about religion that should please the hippies that havn't yet expired. |
Well weren't Lake and Emerson fighting over having the track on the album? Who knows what would have been on the album if Tarkus wasn't there. But yeah, I guess the second side kind of balances out Tarkus, for what it is in that time period it was released.
Edited by FromAbove - June 11 2012 at 14:11
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 14:13 |
I think I heard it for the last time about two years ago. But it remains great. Note: I did not play side 2 back then.
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lazland
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Posted: June 11 2012 at 14:32 |
infandous wrote:
You know, I'm always stunned when prog fans suggest that "bombastic" and "pretentious" are somehow negative in music. Prog is nothing, if not bombastic and pretentious. I mean really, that was the whole point!!! To move rock music beyond the blues framework it was born out of.
Frankly, I've always loved ELP for those traits. I don't listen to them regularly anymore (did plenty of that in the 90's), but I still pull out an album or two ever couple years and marvel at how excellent it all still sounds. Tarkus was always my favorite, and I love the "B" side.......though not as much as the title suite, to be sure.
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I never said it was negative. I just don't like it much, which is a different thing altogether.
Not all prog, BTW, is bombastic & pretentious. I also never said pretentious, just bombastic and over the top, again rather different things.
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