Procol Harum vs Black Sabbath |
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Icarium
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Topic: Procol Harum vs Black Sabbath Posted: April 17 2012 at 09:13 |
in this poll it is important to focus on the whole aspects of the band, musicianship, longvidaty, album quality, song-writing
which band features the best musicianship, drumming, guitars, vocasls, bass, contrast in dynamics between light and dark in the music, what contrasts the two bands like which band has the best drumming, the drummin by B.J Wilson and Bill Ward who is the best guitarsists, Iommi or Trower/Mick Grabham Brooker or Ozzy/DIo i notice one thing, both bands like to play dark music, moody music, powerfull music, Black Sabbath is the founder of heavy metal, the doomy type of metal, but Procol Harum have a certain darkness to theri music that i would name doom ish, Procol Harum are a British rock band, formed in 1967, which contributed to the development of progressive rock, and by extension, symphonic rock. Their best-known recording is their 1967 single "A Whiter Shade of Pale".[1] Although noted for its baroque and classical influence, Procol Harum's music also embraces the blues, R&B and soul. Genres Baroque rock, art rock, psychedelic rock, progressive rock, symphonic rock, blues rock Black Sabbath are an English rock band, formed in Aston, Birmingham in 1969 by Ozzy Osbourne (lead vocals), Tony Iommi (guitar), Geezer Butler (bass guitar), and Bill Ward (drums). The band has since experienced multiple line-up changes, with Tony Iommi the only constant presence in the band through the years.Black sabbaths deep sound comes from the blue scale which has the Diminished fifth or also known as the tritone Originally formed in 1968 as a heavy blues rock band named Earth and renamed to Black Sabbath in 1969,[1] the band began incorporating occult and horror-inspired lyrics with tuned-down guitars and achieving multiple platinum records in the 1970s. Despite an association with occult and horror themes, Black Sabbath also composed songs dealing with social instability, political corruption, the dangers of drug abuse and apocalyptic prophesies of the horrors of war. Genres Heavy metal |
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Sagichim
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 10:03 |
Procol Harum are nice, i'm definitely not their biggest fan, but i can go on and on about Black Sabbath anyday.
I love everything about the Ozzy years and i honestly think they haven't released a bad song that period, yes.. even in their last couple of albums too. I'm not so familiar with the late 80's stuff because i don't like Tony Martin's voice at all. So the Ozzy years are more than enough for me to vote for them. I love this band!
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HolyMoly
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 10:19 |
Procol Harum. I like the Ozzy Sabbath a bunch though. But Procol at their best (e.g Shine on Brightly thru Broken Barricades) are almost untouchable.
(btw, I'm not judging by musical ability; that's not too relevant for me personally) Edited by HolyMoly - April 17 2012 at 10:20 |
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Icarium
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 10:35 |
^ thats okey
im just want this poll to be more difficult or more challanging to pick the band you like mostly |
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Varon
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:08 |
Black Sabbath are in my top-5 so that's an easy choice
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digdug
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:13 |
depending on the mood both are pretty awesome
voted Sabbath
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:24 |
I could understand comparing maybe the Moody Blues to Procol Harem but Sabbath? It's like comparing Richard Simmons to Mike Tyson. I dunno. Sabbath I guess.
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tamijo
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:27 |
Ozzy
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 13:45 |
Osbourne.
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Icarium
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:09 |
also i compare bands i think have a dark thematics through moth of their music, Black Sabbath are known for their doom rock sound and style, and i have also heard people pinpoint about how much Procols lyrics is about death and dark matters much of their music is very down in mood and well yeah dark in texture and in style, i feal Sabbat and Harum is related somwhat in my head |
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:53 |
Procol Harum
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TODDLER
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:13 |
More emphasis on keyboards from Procol Harum causes their darkness to come across with an "Art Rock" form , where Sabbath in the early days were heavy sounding.. However...Black Sabbath had Rick Wakeman on the "Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath" sessions and even prior to those sessons with Sabbath Vol. IV the usage of mellotron revealed a different side to the band's creations.
B.J. Wilson I thought was a finer drummer than Bill Ward. B.J. seemed more progressive and Bill Ward was a pounding "Hard Rock" drummer that fit the style of Sabbath on the first 3 Sabbath releases. He doesn't tone down until "Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath". I believe it is all based around the reality that Black Sabbath took on a different musical direction with the later albums. Regarding the levels reached by both bands in the early days, I can honestly say that although "A Salty Dog" is one of the greatest "Art Rock" ballads ever written, there is no "Hard Rock" or "Heavy Metal" band who has ever written a song as fine as "The Wizard".
Robin Trower (to me) didn't truly sound polished on guitar until the album "Home" or "Bridge Of Sighs" where Tony Iommi worked on sound structure for "Master of Reality" and came across with a inventive sound that defined Sabbath. Robin Trower utilized distortion , yet was basically asked to play leads when the band felt the time was right......which meant he was sharing a lead instrument role with 2 keyboardist's. So he didn't exactly create the Procol sound , but added to it. Tony Iommi was the force and sound behind the style of Black Sabbath. Neither one of them is on the level of a guitarist like Ritchie Blackmore or Jeff Beck. Their roles as guitarists had more to do with creating the right mood for the band's original sound. Iommi more than Trower.
Edited by TODDLER - April 17 2012 at 21:25 |
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 17:02 |
I don't really know much Procol Harum other than that one song that was really famous, so I won't vote. But I do love Sabbath's Master of Reality.
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Icarium
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Posted: April 18 2012 at 09:25 |
you should listen to PH k,
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: April 18 2012 at 20:05 |
I do like Procol Harum in large doses, but I have actually overdosed on Sabbath many times.
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Finnforest
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Posted: April 18 2012 at 20:47 |
Surprisingly hard
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Progosopher
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Posted: April 18 2012 at 22:51 |
Easy for me - Sabbath.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 19 2012 at 01:53 |
Procol Harum by far.
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Wanorak
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Posted: April 19 2012 at 13:35 |
Black Sabbath on the basis of overall consistency. I love Procol Harem, but their albums are very inconsistent IMO.
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The-Winkler
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 04:02 |
procul harum
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