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    Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:20
This is a sub genre of progressive rock that I've really been getting into lately and I've been buying up all the so called "classics" of said genre, but I was wondering what other albums were worth picking up?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:24
Yummy!!

Just to get a better picture before we all start posting our faves here - what are your most preferred of the ones you already have? It's just that Canterbury can be very melodic and suave, but it can also be cryptic and highly avant guarde in nature. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:27
Supersister's To thee Highest Bidder and Quiet Sun's Mainstream are some of my favorites that seem to get overlooked.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:39
Ok then. Here are some you may fancy(I really love 'em):

COS - Viva Boma


Amoeba Split. Spanish newcomer sounding remarkably like the old classic bands, yet without ripping any of them off.


Pazop - Psychilis of a Lunatic Genius 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:48
American band The Muffins recorded a sweet little thing as their debut. Highly recommendedThumbs Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:50
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Supersister's To thee Highest Bidder and Quiet Sun's Mainstream are some of my favorites that seem to get overlooked.
 
I actually just bought this and should be here any day now! Big smile
 
Some of my favorite albums/bands:
 
Caravan - In The Land Of Grey And Pink
Soft Machine - Vol.1 - Seven
Gong - Camembert Electrique and the whole Radio Gnome Trilogy
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:54
Oh - I almost forgot! This band is from Italy, but they're all instrumental(at least there are no lyrics) and they recorded one heck of a beautiful album with their self-titled. Pichio dal Pozzo:



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 09:00
One of my favorite subgenres of progressive rock, and probably the one that "got me started".  Not even sure where to begin on recommendations, but I'll keep and eye on the thread and chime in again if anyone's missed anything.  There's just a whole ton of stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 09:26
cool!!!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 10:46
Hi,
 
Canterbury, for me, starts with Soft Machine and Caravan ... all the others are "impostors". But you have to go back to 1966 and 1967 and their very early days so you can study things better!
 
The problem is where you take this ... because all of a sudden SM is three or four or five different bands and folks, and Caravan, of course, if you stick to the brothers alone, you have 10 different bands or so ... and chasing these things is crazy! But it is fun, and the more you chase ... the more music you find ... ohhh my gawd ... he was in Camel? ... and it goes on and on and on ... to the point that you wonder where you stop!
 
The jazzy-ier side is even more mixed and even goes to New York and back ... with some interesting connections and marriages.
 
All in all, when you get done and you think you can define something ... let us know!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:13
There are actually many underground Canterbury titles mentioned in this thread..that I have yet to hear! gosh! How can you have it all? Early to mid period Caravan was interesting. I liked "For Girls Who Grow Plump In the Night" , "Land Of Grey and Pink" and most of you know the story. It's all about mood for me, but I do love their albums. Hatfield and the North....and National Health are 2 of my favorites. Robert Wyatt's "Rock Bottom" has this "feel" to it and I don't quite know what it is, but when I hear the music, I stare out then window and dream. Love it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 12:03
I'm so glad other guys like Canterbury on this forum and there is a new topic today... I might say that I'm really exited... excuse me if my post sound like an arse.

Im into canterbury and zeuhl a lot lot lot... I have mainly everything listed in PA that can be buyable and that suite my interests. I don't want to look like the guy who show off some bands and albums and I will try to not repeat those already mentioned above but there is some of my recommandation if you like to go any further :

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Hatfield and the North (2) and National Health (3 or Complete)... 
Bruford (3), egg (3), Pierre Moerlen's Gong (4) Matching Moles (2), Gilgamesh (2), Gowen-Miller-Sinclair-Tomkins (1),  Moving Gelatine Plate (2), the first Henry Cow (Leg-End), Piccio Dal Pozzo (3), The muffins (Mana and Chrono)... Kenso (2,3,sparta,dreamhill), Ain Soph (hat and field, Marine, Mysterious forest) and Mr Sirius (2)  from Japan... Pazop, Panthéon, John Greaves (kew rhone). And don't forget to buy Soft Machine - Bundles too.

"NewSchool" bands : 
Antique Seeking Nuns, Volaré, Moom, Bandhada, Amoeba Split, SIXNORTH, A Triggering Myth (2 last), French TV (3 first), Radio Piece III, Tipographica, 

And there is a ton of fusion groups/albums that could have some similar lining like Tasavalan Presidenti, Pekka Pohjola, Uzva,  Samurai, Granada, Maneige, Bubu, Kultivator (zeuhlish), Jacques Tollot (cinq hop = zeuhlish), Potemkin (Nicolas 2 = zeuhlish), Abus Dangereux (4ième Mouvement = Zeuhlish), Mahogany Frog

If you ask me my favorites, I really dont know...every of those album have such a wonderfull taste. I'm always searching for that kind of feeling and often found new fusion or RIO albums with some similar lining. I'm actually at seeking into those genre to get my feelings back.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 12:37
All of the music mentioned is good that I know of (I have a particular thing for John Greaves et al's Kew Rhone, Cos and Picchio dal Pozzo of the recommendations).  I've hardly heard any Canterbury Scene albums that were not good, or to my taste (Fish Rising didn't do it for me)  But since you like Robert Wyatt, more Robert Wyatt albums (I like all of his albums, but Shleep might be a safe bet), and I would highly recommend Matching Mole.  Also consider John Greaves' Songs which features Robert Wyatt.  I'm a major Wyatt fan and have collected quite a few albums which feature him (News From Babel is good one with him as well as Mantler ones).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 12:42
Originally posted by Olivier! Olivier! wrote:

And there is a ton of fusion groups/albums that could have some similar lining like Tasavalan Presidenti, Pekka Pohjola, Uzva,  Samurai, Granada, Maneige, Bubu, Kultivator (zeuhlish), Jacques Tollot (cinq hop = zeuhlish), Potemkin (Nicolas 2 = zeuhlish), Abus Dangereux (4ième Mouvement = Zeuhlish), Mahogany Frog


Kultivator were amazing.  I recently got their one and only album and it's great.   Anekdoten apparently were big fans of them. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 13:12
Thanks a lot for the recommendations so far, guys! Smile  Looks like I have a lot to sift through, although a few of these are already on my "Albums To Get" list (Cos - Viva Boma, for instance).  That Pichio dal Pozzo track was very entrancing!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 14:35


Nobody mentioned Khaaaaaaaaaaan!





Also, Zyma is only Canterbury-sounding band from Germany that I'm aware of, and they're quite good:


http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=3069


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 14:56
Originally posted by MillsLayne MillsLayne wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Supersister's To thee Highest Bidder and Quiet Sun's Mainstream are some of my favorites that seem to get overlooked.
 
I actually just bought this and should be here any day now! Big smile
 
Some of my favorite albums/bands:
 
Caravan - In The Land Of Grey And Pink
Soft Machine - Vol.1 - Seven
Gong - Camembert Electrique and the whole Radio Gnome Trilogy
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom

Wow surprisingly those are my least favorite releases from each artists, exluding Wyatt - never listened to his work.
Not sure what you've heard out of the Canterbury Scene but Caravan's If I Could is miles past Grey and Pink. I even rate Plump and Waterloo Lily higher than it. Gong's Shamal and Gazeuse are my favorites, more traditional fusion but it's done perfectly. 

Quiet Sun is crazy fun, hope you enjoy it. It's one of my favorite Canterbury albums. 
I also think Khan is HIGHLY overrated and not that special. Sounds too dated, and it's quite boring. 

Moving Gelatine Plates has a great duo of albums, their first 2 are 4* efforts. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:09
Can a Canterbury band come from Athens Georgia?  On PA it can.

My friend had this album, and I don't remember a lot about it, but in the late 90s there was a LOT of buzz about it, particularly since the band was from Athens GA (right down the road from me) and played a Canterbury kind of prog.  I remember it sounding very good, but there wasn't a whole lot of Canterbury around at the time, so it might just have been the novelty which impressed me.  (edit: after sampling the track below, I think it still sounds good).

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5116

VOLARE' - The Uncertainty Principle

Found this track on Youtube, but the song title doesn't appear on either of the albums on PA.  In any case, it's a good example of how they sound - very Hatfield and the North-y.







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 18:02

For Kultivator, true, there only one album is pretty amazing. They were singing in their native langage wich looks like a tad like Magma’s Kobaian langage.

Wyatt - rock bottom is a good canterbury album, really pleasant to listen too, more interesting than some Soft Machine imo, its Wyatt first solo album post Soft Machine and Matching Moles. 

Khan - Space Shanty  is more space rock than Canterbury, with Dave Stewart (Egg, HatN, NH) on keyboard and Steve Hillage (Gong) on guitar... this album is often cited with the two first Egg albums. Like Horizons says, that sounds a tad vintage... but many early Canterbury albums also sound dated (I’m actually thinking about the 3 first SM and Caravan, Egg, the first of SuperSisters...)

Like Logan, I haven’t really felt Steve Hillage - Fish Rising. Its a post Khan, similar to Gong trilogy era with some psychedelic/spacy lining.

Sorry for Horizons but my favorite Caravan is still "In the land of the grey and pink"... that was my introduction to the genre even to prog rock music...   I also like "Plump" and "if i could", but  not really "waterloo lily" tho

 I like Quiet Sun too... a tad more fuzzy and abrasive than Hatfield but similar. A must have in your Canterbury collection for sure.

John Greaves - Kew. Rhone is often cited as a Canterbury album but in fact, this sounds more like RIO meets Zeuhl meets Canterbury, its more like an avant-prog album... I find this one weird but really nice to listen...

Cos – Viva Boma is a good choice. Buy it if you succeed to find it at low cost cause I cannot... this album is in my wish list since a long time ago. I own “ train robbery” .

I don’t really know Zyma, what I have eard didn’t succeed to convince me back in some years to buy their album... might give another try tonight.

Volaré – Uncertainty Principle is one of my “newschool” fav, Memoire is good too but the record sounds not very good.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 18:14
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:


Not sure what you've heard out of the Canterbury Scene but Caravan's If I Could is miles past Grey and Pink. I even rate Plump and Waterloo Lily higher than it.



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