Your thoughts on gay rights?

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: IMHO Marriage is the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law. So I don't believe in gay marriage. But I do believe that single people can adopt if they have a stable position that ensure the kids wealth, no matter the sexual preference of the parent,  There are millions of abandoned kids, and gay couples (or single gay persons) are as good parents as heterosexual couples. Sounds contradictory, but that's my position. Iván Note: I believe in equal rights, not in special rights. For example, in my country they have created femicide, if you kill a woman you have a larger conviction, that's absurd Gay or straight you can only marry persons of the opposite sex But adopting is a right that gay or straight share equally

Appropriate?

Yes, gay marriage is meaningful: it allows you to have the rights of heterosexual couples (and adoption is one of these rights, at least in France), including having less taxes to pay, being the legal inheritor of each other, etc... It's a social protection.

Like we were saying, just admit your true convictions.

The argument makes no sense:
"Its ok to adopt, but marriage is too far!"

Sooooo it's OK to more or less be married, and raise a child, but don't actually get married?
That's a cover...or a very very odd belief.

The rights thing makes no sense.

There are many many people who are uncomfortable and even hate the idea of gay marriage, think its immoral and will destroy our "moral fiber" whatever that is...just say so!!

I agree Textbook, what's real funny is the want to get married in a church...that most likely hates what you're doing. Hell I don't even want to get married in a church...not sure why a homosexual couple would want to.
That's just me though.

It's strange how you don't hear more people arguing for polygamy. Post religion, if everyone involved wants to give it a try, why not? I know two families that had a daddy and two mommies, both produced children, both sets of children are totally normal and functional.

I did always find the "civil union" thing kind of funny. Guess it's easier to accept "they are pretty much married" but not having to say the word.

JJLehto wrote: I did always find the "civil union" thing kind of funny. Guess it's easier to accept "they are pretty much married" but not having to say the word.

Ah, and 'nobody gives a damn about dykes'. I remember that one. 

Well CPicard you may be talking about a different issue, I am referring to the US situation.

It's true though, like in my state of NJ..there are civil unions as well as like 350 laws that "have unions on the same level as marriage" or something like that.
I think wow...just use the M word and make it easier! A decent majority of the state supports it.

It's always a moral argument, but man...people can find a way to work economics into everything!
If NJ was to legalize same sex marriage:
" the State’s gross receipt tax revenues would rise by $7.2 million per year, and 1,400 new jobs would be created in relevant industries."   :O


Edited by JJLehto - April 16 2012 at 06:50